[mr00jimbo]

I was at the gun store the other day and I had my Sig P220 9 millimeter on the counter. He said he had the same gun (well a P226 9) and his gunsmith told him that after 100 rounds of shooting, hang it up for a while cause it's not meant to be shot very much.

I've put a few hundred rounds through it in one range trip when it was my only gun (a few new shooters, it was my only gun along with my 870) and it was too hot to touch but since none of us were good shots we didn't notice any difference in accuracy.

Anyway, I told him I had no idea Sigs were not good for high volume shooting (he seemed to mention Sig by name saying it was going to throw its accuracy off first) but I'm still skeptical.

So then it got me wondering; I know bolt-action rifles can lose barrel life when shooting high-volume, and they get hot.

But what about pistols? Are some pistols more suited for higher volume shooting than others? I'm not talking about bull barrel competition pistols, i'm talking about normal barrel CZ75, Browning HPs, Sig P226, Glock 17, H&K, etc. guns - if there's any variation with how many rounds they can take and if a few hundred rounds in a day is going to noticeably accelerate barrel wear from rapid fire.

 

[Nestor]

Sure it gonna be hot like hell, but I would call BS on such statement.
Couple of links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqtA84eBmPQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tlKjrOi2zo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVtgbQzbPM4
All of them are turning hot pretty fast.

 

[collim1]

Sigs are meant to be shot lots. Keep a nice thick coating of GREASE, not oil on the slide rails and you are good to go for hundreds of rounds as fast as you can reload.

I have three Sigs and I dont make it to the range as often as I would like to, so when I go 250rds+ is not uncommon and I have easily shot more than 500rds in one session. They can handle it, trust me.

Now, a Stainless steel .357mag Smith and Wesson revolver will get too hot to hold after about 25rds in rapid succession.

 

[G33]

BS.
My Sig 228 has gotten hot enough to cook on.
Even though I cannot cook.
:wavey:

 

[WoodenPlank]

The only gun I don't like shooting several mags in a row with is my P7. That has nothing to do with reliability, but the fact that I don't like giving the trigger guard the skin off of my fingers.

As other folks said, keep the slide lubed with the proper grease, and shoot the crap out of it.

 

[K1tt3n5]

Um it's a sig shoot the snot out of it. I shot 500 rounds through mine mag after mag for its first range outing. Slide glide or wilson combat grease are your slide rails and trigger components best friends.

 

[Morgo]

A Sig thats not meant to be shot very much, hmm ok.
I guess that guys never heard of competition shooting where putting many hundreds of rounds down range in a short period of time is common place.

 

[wanderinwalker]

If it's too hot to handle comfortably, it might be time to put it down. This applies to many things in life I suppose, and not just handguns... :whistling:

Seriously, the difference between rapid firing a high-intensity rifle cartridge versus a piddly little pistol round is going to be throat erosion of the barrel. Something like a .270, 7mm Magnum or many other rifle cartridges burn quite a bit more powder and generate a lot more heat and pressure than a pistol. This is much harder on barrels. Plus rifles are generally more accurate and used at significantly longer ranges, so accuracy loss is easier to see.

(Point: A Sharpshooter or Expert-class Highpower shooter will think his barrel is shot out long after a High Master has had his barrel replaced.)

But a handgun? You're talking a 10-MOA platform in a standard service-grade model.

 

[bac1023]

I was at the gun store the other day and I had my Sig P220 9 millimeter on the counter. He said he had the same gun (well a P226 9) and his gunsmith told him that after 100 rounds of shooting, hang it up for a while cause it's not meant to be shot very much.

:rofl:

Total BS

 

[H&K 4 LIFE]

Just more gun shop counter nonsense. One hundred rounds is nothing!

Here James Yaegar fires one thousand rounds in one outing through a Glock 19. Other then the guide rod melting, the pistol still functioned and there was no damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI

Here Todd Jarret fires one thousand rounds through a Para 1911. Sure the gun got hot, but didn't stop working.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7wL2QuFTLQ

 

[M2 Carbine]

He said he had the same gun (well a P226 9) and his gunsmith told him that after 100 rounds of shooting, hang it up for a while cause it's not meant to be shot very much.

I don't have any SIGs but that's BS.


The only handgun I know that isn't meant to be shot a hundred rounds rapid fire is the Kel Tec PLR .223. The PLR has a short thin barrel and no metal receiver to act as a heat sink. Trying to rapid fire 100 rounds will heat the barrel so much that the front of the plastic hand-guard and plastic cover on the retaining nut will melt.
A shooter proved this by trying to dump a 100 round mag through the PLR.


A hundred rounds through a properly lubed pistols is nothing, assuming that the pistol is reliable in the first place.

 

[doktarZues]

Anytime you have someone who thinks they're the smartest person in the room when it comes to a given topic, you're gonna hear B.S. Take the kind of yokel who is happy to work for minimum wage or a discount and put them behind the counter and you're gonna hear it in spades.

I think what you heard was complete and utter nonsense.

 

[GSSF17]

I was at the gun store the other day and I had my Sig P220 9 millimeter on the counter. He said he had the same gun (well a P226 9) and his gunsmith told him that after 100 rounds of shooting, hang it up for a while cause it's not meant to be shot very much.

...funniest thing I have heard all month!!! :rofl:

 

[leadispenser]

he is absolutely correct. I will give you $100 for it....

 

[Bruce M]

I don't doubt that the life of the gun could be decreased a bit by shooting it when it gets very hot. But my gut instinct is that the decrease would be small and might be the difference between shooting say 20x the value of the gun in ammunition and 19.5x the value of the gun in ammunition.

I also think it would be the temperature of the gun, not the actual number of rounds of ammunition shot.

 

[austin_tx]

I don't doubt that the life of the gun could be decreased a bit by shooting it when it gets very hot. But my gut instinct is that the decrease would be small and might be the difference between shooting say 20x the value of the gun in ammunition and 19.5x the value of the gun in ammunition.

I also think it would be the temperature of the gun, not the actual number of rounds of ammunition shot.

This is correct. Causing greater degrees of expansion and contraction in the metal components from greater temperature variation will theoretically shorten the functional life of these metal components, but, in practice, the difference will not be anything you would notice (unless you're shooting 1,000 rounds as fast as you can, Yeager-style, through the gun during every outing, in which case you should have enough money not to care). The claim that you shouldn't shoot more than 100 rounds through any quality semi-auto in a single outing is preposterous.

 

[Ruggles]

The only gun I don't like shooting several mags in a row with is my P7. That has nothing to do with reliability, but the fact that I don't like giving the trigger guard the skin off of my fingers.

As other folks said, keep the slide lubed with the proper grease, and shoot the crap out of it.

Those puppies get HOT after 40-50 rounds. Too hot to shoot soon after that :rofl:

 

[Trench Sweeper]

What a load of counter crap. What did he just happen to have to sell you that was made for that sort of shooting?

 

[carbuncle]

I regularly put 200+ rounds through my handguns in a single range session, no problems.

 

[W]

I agree. The 9x19 cartridge gets too hot for rapid fire. That is why you never see sub guns chambered in that caliber.











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