How is the Sig P320 doing for our soldiers?

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  1. Darkangel1846

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    That goes with the service. NDs with the 1911, NDs with the Beretta, now we'll have NDs with the 320. Many soldiers should not be allowed to carry or handle a handgun.
     
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    Most soldiers are not gun guys/gals.


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    The troops would probably find reasons to whine about it like they would with any issued items. Somethings simply don't change.
     
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    Consider the much greater emphasis on rifle/carbine training, yet there were and still are ND cases with long arms. Now, take it to a pistol of which hardly any training is devoted to it...not surprising if there are a lot more NDs with the pistols.

    This is why the military in general always micromanage smallarms handling just because a few GIs are simply too dumb to breath much less handle weapons.

    "Sarge, Sarge, my M16 kept jamming!!!"
    "When was the last time you cleaned and lubed that weapon, dumbass?!!"
    "Uh...I haven't since a few days ago."
    "Clean your **&&%$%&* weapon, Private!!!"
     
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    It’s brand new vs a worn out M9...... Almost everyone likes them.


    The bigger problem is they’re not issuing them 1-1, so we’ve lost a significant number of pistols for M-4’s. So when it comes time to deploy we’ll have to ONS more to plus up.
     
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    The barretta m9 in military sucks because they have shot out the rifling in the barrel. My friend served in Iraq and said the barrels were so shot out that the use of a pistol is only within 10 yards. Beyond 10 yards you could not count hitting anything. I did shoot with him to make sure that he was not the problem and he hit paper with my 3 pistols. 2 glocks and 1 Springfield at 30 yards. To which he said you could not do that with a service pistol m9. I still want one but plan to change barrel and trigger once the surplus hits the market.
     
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    Whichever it was. I am so high right now on pain killers post surgery I am surprised I even spelled it right.
     
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    #notathing.
     
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    Heal up fast.
     
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    I am trying. Right now they are saying I am off work till at least January. I hope to talk them into lite duty stuff so I can keep insurance on the kids.
     
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    I never shot a military pistol outside of USMC bootcamp back in '83, and the ones we did use were like shooting smoothbore muskets. I remember looking down the bore of the 1911 I was cleaning and noticed it was entirely smooth. I also remember they were rattle traps. I never got to qualify for a pistol badge, and if I ever had the chance, I surely wouldn't have wanted to have used one of those bootcamp pistols.
     
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    I am yet to see anybody in the Army with one, but I probably will before long. I haven't seen much of anything this year, thanks to most military school, orders and competition being canceled.
     
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    My expectation is that the Sigs will turn out to be too delicate for the military.
     
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    Smaller and lighter.
    Hardly ever used.
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    I don't remember 1911s being shot out and I don't remember them being shot much. I think yearly qualifications were no more than 50 rounds, if that.

    Most of the wear on any military weapon comes from cleaning.

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    Outside of special operations units, I really don’t believe it much matter what pistol is being used. They seem to be an afterthought item, or a symbolic weapon more than anything. I’ve talked to guys who served and used old 1911’s as well as M9’s, and they all seem to universally agree that the pistols were fubar and couldn’t be trusted to engage targets at any moderate distance.

    Personally, I wasn’t there, so I don’t know. What I do know is that I have owned several Colt 1911’s, several Beretta M9/92FS’s, and a single P320. I would think any of them would suffice for something that gets a Mag ran through it for familiarity, then tossed in a holster never to be seen again until it’s time to turn it in to an arms room.
     
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    Deploying units get them first. We’ve got some guys going out the door shortly. Just replaced our M9’s about five months ago.
     
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    I thought that it was strange that the 101st Airborne was the first major unit to get the M17. Historically speaking it always had been the Green Beanies, the Rangers and the 82nd Airborne getting first dibs.
     
  20. tallTexasdude

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    I was in 1st Cav, which means we would’ve been last to get them.
     
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