How is the electoral college influence?

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  1. hooligan74

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    But there's no legislation stating that if the votes aren't in on time that state's electoral votes are null, right?
     
  2. HarlDane

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    I'm in favor of each state doing as they wish when it comes to electing politicians. So far as I know, they have all, conservative and liberal alike, used general popular vote elections. And no, I don't have a problem with it and apparently neither do the vast majority of voters because not a single state has decided to do as you suggest. Perhaps you can start a new thread about your idea.
     
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    It's not my idea, it's how the Founders first established the role of the Electors and how the country worked for a very long time.

    Disenfranchised voters are not voters are all.

    Mob rule - raw democracy - doesn't work, and our Founders knew that. That's why the country was established as a Representative Republic.

    When people realize they can vote themselves other people's stuff, society will collapse.

    That's what we are seeing now.
     
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    The founders never imposed an EC system on the State level and I don't know of a State that used such a system on their own. I'm really not sure what you could even be talking about.
     
  5. czsmithGT

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    There doesn’t have to be.
     
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    Maybe. Maybe not. Uncharted territory, right?

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    Not what I said, though a little research will educate you on the process and how it has changed. Of course you won’t do that, so just keep blathering on.
     
  8. HarlDane

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    I'm well versed on that subject as well as recognizing a copout when I see one.
     
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    I guess some people have not been reading the news. SCOTUS ruled that state electors must vote for the candidate that received the most votes in that state.

    What this means is that the 3 biggest cities can control the entire country.

    The people in the Hinterlands have no control of the City States.

    Personally, I think the states electors should be divided by the vote. That would at least give the people in the Hinterlands some say in their fate. The City States will only vote for things that benefit THEM. Why not? They have complete control.
     
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    Except that's not what the decision says.

    Perhaps you should do a little more reading yourself?
     
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    Yes, the decision is a little different then the general definition that is being bantered about. The original 13 colonies could not agree to join together unless there was some form of States Rights and this is why we are The United States of America and not just America.As a Democratic Republic rather than a pure Democracy the electoral college, as pointed out so many times here, gives some voice to the less populous states.

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    No, the court ruled that electors must follow state law when casting their vote.
     
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    The Founders did not trust popular voting.
    States did not trust the Federal government.
    Both proved correct.
    :)
     
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    BobbyS Truth always sounds like lies to a sinner

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    so why have EC if they have to vote as the state goes. if a huge city has the majority of votes then the EC has to just what, back them up by voting the same. If the ec cannot override the big city majority then it is pretty much worthless.
     
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    The biggest influence the EC has is increasing the number of EC votes in states with small populations by allocating votes according to the number of congressmen and senators a state has. Wyoming has 3 EC votes (2 senators and 1 congressman) or one per ~193K people. California has 55 (2 Senators and 53 congressmen) or one per ~718K people. If California was represented at the same rate as WY, it would have over 200 EC votes.
     
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    Sorry. I was misinformed on the SCOTUS case.
     
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    Most states however require the electors to vote as the state's majority does.

    Bob
     
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    Probably a moot point. Even For Florida in 2000, after that election cluster **** and court battles, their electors met on time and their results were certified
     
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