How hard of a hardcast bullet do we need? Looking at old information from Elmer Keith, he was using bullets cast at that time in the 11-16 BHN range. Almost everybody now adays cast their commerical offerings with 20+ BHN and uses this as a selling point. A few good articles that I've read stated under 1300fps, you don't need that hard of a bullet. Until they are pumped out a 454casull or rifle these extra hard cast bullets don't really offer anything extra. Have anybody ever shot a medium/lg size game animal with a lead hardcast bullet less than 20 on the BHN scale? I trying todo so real life testing with bullet cast under 20 BHN and seeing if the results are better. Here's some informal testing from bullets wacked outside with a 5lb hammer. The bullet linedup in the middle, is a 320gr drycreek keith 45/LC bullet that showed serious deformation of the nose and if you look closely the whole bullet swell when compressed from the hammer strikes, so i would assume it would do the same aganist a game animal providing it doesn't break or reatard penetration, it should be okay.The other bullets are various .452 diameter FP/Keith/WFN bullets that are all cast with 20+ BHN rating. They are hard as steel. I shot a railroad tie member with the 300FP-BB and the bullet slide thru it like a needle going thru silk. It was lightly loaded also. Anybody have experience with various cast lead-alloys and games and results, please post your outcome.