I've got some friends that want me to give their kids private karate lessons. They won't put their kids in regular classes because they are afraid that the kids will get hurt. The real problem is that their kids are spoiled rotten, given everything that they want, never disciplined, and now the parents want me to try to fix what they didn't do years ago. These kids are not tough in any sense of the word, except maybe they are hardcore cryers. They got doctors notes to get out of P.E. in school. I have been thinking that every kid deserves a couple of chances, so I have been weighing out the possibilities of taking them on as students. I think that the first order of business would be to teach them some concepts that aren't totally martial arts related, such as to finish what they start. I lease 8000 acres of hunting land that is all wooded, and some of it's pretty tough terrain. I was thinking about taking them on a hike, to test their mettle. I figure they will be whining a quarter mile into it, but maybe, you never know, they might actually finish the hike. Any ideas? Ages 12 and 14.