How do you (non-licensee) ship handguns?

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  1. doktarZues

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    From the best I can tell, the only way to ship handguns is via Fedex or UPS, and both require next-day services. Which is really expensive. ATF regulations do not stipulate how you send them I don't think, just that you use a contract carrier (not USPS). Soo, my understanding is if I am selling a handgun, I have to spend the $$ and send next day? Right, wrong, otherwise??

    The reason I'm inquiring is over the years I've purchased many from private parties and some, (most?) of them do not ship next day. Are the breaking the law? Or is this just a regulation they're breaking between shipper and the carrier, so it's not "illegal" ??

    If you were to sell a handgun to a private party and have to ship, how do you get it to their FFL?
     
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    The few times I did it, I just had the LGS do it for me. Cost me $30.
     
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    ATF rules don't stipulate next day, just a common/contract carrier.

    But, you MUST notify the carrier that there is a firearm being shipped, so if you don't do that to get around next day shipping, then you're breaking the law.
     
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    I have shipped a gun back to the manufacturer several times for repairs.

    When they send me a shipping label it was always FedX next day.


    But the times I shipped without a manufacturer supplied label I used the cheapest UPS shipping available.

    I just put - machined parts - in the description. Fact is most guns have some machined parts.

    These were low end guns - KelTec P3AT and HiPoint carbine -

    You can also have a FFL on your end help you ship it.
     
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  5. doktarZues

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    Im on the same page with you here and will probably do that. Unfortunately my local guy says he hates doing it so he charges $50 lol, have to call around and find someone else more reasonable.

    ETA My LGS guy doesn't like to get off his stool, and when he does, it's for good reason, and he moves very slowly. lmao
     
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    I didn't tell them - they didn't ask.

    I didn't know it was a law that you must tell a shipper what you are shipping -

    But if you are sending a package to a gun company - I sort of figured that was obvious.
     
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    I always thought it was comical that they intentionally obscure the name on the shipping label, yet you need to notify the carrier.
     
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    Anyone else with a FFL might do it too. Know anyone who runs a pawn shop?
     
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    I’m not an ATF agent but don’t you need to ship FFL to FFL?

    I’ve shipped back to the manufacturer FedEx but that’s different than selling.
     
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    Every pistol I have purchased privately that has been shipped to me was listed as 'car stereo' or some such other electronic gizmo.



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    Only the receiver has to have an FFL/be a manufacturer. Sales within the same state may not even require that depending on state laws. Some FFLs refuse to accept firearms that weren't shipped from another FFL but there's no legal requirement that they be.
     
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    I use a local FFL and ship USPS. Need to feel out a PS1508 postal form that you can download off the internet.

    However for warranty work I have had the manufacture provide a shipping label. Took it to UPS store and dropped it off.
     
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    They don't have to ask - the law requires you to notify them.
     
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    I use one of a few pawn shops within driving distance. It costs me $20-$30 depending on which pawn shop I use and who is working that day.
     
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    This I did not know, understand receiving has to be FFL to process background check but I didn’t realize sender could be a “regular Joe”.

    I only do FTF local sales but this is good to know.
     
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    Interesting, what state?
     
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    What if I'm sending a pistol to my son; not selling, just sending. Do I need the FFL's to be a part of that?
     
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    You don't, you just need to send UPS or FedEx overnight.
     
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    The reason UPS and or Fedex want overnight is so it spends less time in their system. Less chance it will be "lost" or stolen. Also if it's an expensive gun and lets say you insured it for $1000 and it went missing, it would be hard to get your payout by calling it something other than what it is.
     
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    Use the smallest box possible,
    Ship on fedex or ups on Friday.

    They don’t deliver on Saturday so you don’t have to pay overnight.
     
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