I started a long time ago when a neighbor was having a garage sale. He had a Lachmiller Model L1000 he was selling for nothing. I bought it, rode my bicycle to the gun store and bought 100 primers, he had given me some wads, hulls and a half can of powder. I was then the first kid on my block to be in ammunition production. Still have it too. C clamped the board to my Fathers work bench when I used it.