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How common is this music ability?

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  1. ithaca_deerslayer

    ithaca_deerslayer

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    This story is about the piano teacher'ability.

    Driving my 7yr old to his piano lesson, I was playing Black Sabbath in the car and told my son there was a song coming up that he would know. He liked "War Pigs" quite a lot, but no that wasn't it. No not the next one either, you'll know it when you hear. No, not this one, I said you'll know it no doubt about it when you hear it. "Oh, I know this song!".

    So when we get there I play the CD on that song for the piano teacher for a minute. She liked the drums on War Pigs. But anyway, getting to the song in question, she had never heard it before, and hadn't seen the movie, and obviously had managed to avoid the promos. She's a good egg, but not overly exposed to popular culture.

    During that one minute of listening to the song, we were talking about a variety of stuff, especially the lyrics of War Pigs which we had heard on the way to the 4th song, the song in question. I explained to her how my son has seen the movie about 20 times, and he says "yeah, it's a good song!"

    Ok, so here's the question. How many of you musically inclined people, or musically inclined people you personally know, could hear a song for the first time, only a minute of it, while gabbing about other stuff, and then sit down at the piano and play Iron Man perfectly?

    I told my son his piano teacher is like a super hero, with a super power of music :)
     
  2. ithaca_deerslayer

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    I guess it must not be common at all :)
     

  3. 686Owner

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    I'm not sure how common it is, but I couldn't play it with a week's worth of lessons I don't think.

    I just wonder what Iron Man would sound like on the piano.
     
  4. costanza187

    costanza187 I like Macs

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    I have a cousin who can pretty much imitate anything he hears on the guitar. He won't read tabs or anything, just listens to it and does it. Darnedest thing I've ever seen.
     
  5. JMarch

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    Iron man should be pretty easy for any teacher worth their salt. Was it just the main guitar line, or did the teacher go all the way with harmony and everything?
     
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    I think its pretty common for musically inclined people.



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  7. Mrs.Cicero

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    I'd have to play it repeatedly, no way could I do it on one listen, or while having a conversation through the song.

    I did manage to freak out my mom when I sat down at her dulcimer (which isn't an instrument I've ever played) and plinked out Ode to Joy for her. The mathematical progressions of the strings on the dulcimer made it surprisingly easy that day. I've never been able to do it since.
     
  8. Bullwinkle J Moose

    Bullwinkle J Moose Quick! Duck!

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    Not uncommon for a musician. I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around BS being played on a piano.
     
  9. texasglong

    texasglong NRA Life Member

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    My wife has a Dr. degree in Piano performance and could do it.
     
  10. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

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    If I verbally tell you a story, could you type it out and post that same story later on GT?

    Same thing if you understand music and notes, its the same concept. I seen a guy on PBS that taught musicians how to play the Piano. If you already play something like guitar or violin, understand musical notes, and are musically inclined, switching to the Piano is not that hard, if someone shows you the basics.

    I wonder if its a nature or nurture thing. I had a lot of exposure listening to all types of music as a kid, but no exposure to formal music lessons. I can tell you if two tones or songs sound the same, and I can hum or whistle any song I heard, but I don't know what an A sharp or a B flat is or how to play any instrument.
     
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  11. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Yes, common.

    Several decades ago, I knew my way around the tenor sax and clarinet. I had a REASONABLE ear, but I also had a feel for that instrument. I definitely could play better by ear than read a completely foreign composition.

    Today: I'm 18 months into futzing with a guitar. I wish I was 12 again, just to learn the guitar as intuitively as I knew those instruments. I watch people on TV playing guitar. They move their hands like I used to on the windies.

    But there is no way I want or could commit the time and energy into playing the guitar at even NEAR the level I played clarinet. Just not in the cards. 30 years and a life get in the way.
     
  12. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Interesting "by ear" story: I was listening to Don't Fear the Reaper by BOC and thought, "That's a cool riff - I wanna learn that."

    I have this app called Songster on my iPad - it does tabs for any song I can think of. Pretty cool to learn pieces - esp. since my ability to read music from that long ago is COMPLETELY lost.

    I could listen to that song 100 times and I'd say those are 3-note runs.

    Nope. The high note (a. . . G?) rings so loud it masks any work you do on the low E string. It's 4 notes played equally as long (eighth notes, I think).

    I tried playing triples and skipping the low-E string notes - it sounded like utter crap. LOL

    I'll say this: It needed more cowbell. :rofl:
     
  13. frizz

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    For a simple melody like Iron Man, it isn't hard to play it right the first go 'round if you have experience playing.

    I remember hearing Werewolves of London on the radio & thinking that the piano part would sound cool on guitar. I figured it out in my head how to play it right there while driving.

    And I'm not "all that" when it comes to guitar.
     
  14. frizz

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    Accordion is pretty cool. FF to 3:15.... (Be sure to look at the dude in the brown Honda Civic in the background.)

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcPWDDJVMmc"]Buddyhead Presents: BLACK ACCORDION SABBATH - YouTube[/ame]
     
  15. automatic slim

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    Once you understand music, and know the difference in intervals by ear, and also familiarize your ear with the sound of different chords, it's not that hard. It takes practice.

    One way to practice, is to set in front of the TV and play everything that comes on. You have 30 seconds to learn that stupid, obnoxious commercial.....:supergrin:
     
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    It's not something everyone can do, but there are quite a lot of good musicians who are capable of this.

    The dirty secret is that MANY people are capable of learning to do this, but traditional methods of teaching music makes it tremendously harder to achieve. It's the same reason most people struggle with music and find themselves unable to succeed. (Many people will disagree with me on this point, and they are wrong.)

    Someone who practices scales and intervals, trains their pitch recognition ability (contrary to popular belief, most people are capable of perfect pitch), and practices playing songs by ear will likely have success in this endeavor.
     
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    These Tibetan Monks seem to be on to something. I don't think they have even heard of Black Sabbath. :rofl:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK06ehmzUc0"]Chanting Monks and Ozzy - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  18. Gallium

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    It is relatively easy. I know 2-3 dozen people who can do this.

    I know 3 guys who can do this, and immediately on the fly transpose into a different key, for say, sax or trombone.

    I know one guy who can do this on any of 5 instruments (he also speaks 6 languages fluently, but has trouble tying his shoelaces)

    I know one guy that can not only play stuff on the fly (he is a lefty guitarist) but could play on the fly on a righty guitar playing righty, or playing a rightie guitar lefty. He has played for everyone from Paul Simon, Luther Vandross, Christina Aguilera, Madonna, George Benson, Ziggy Marley, Whitney Houston, Bette Midler, Gloria Estefan...etc etc.
     
  19. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Oh my, that is awesome sig line material!

    Your one line just totally killed my whole story :)
     
  20. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Just the main line, but with chords and melody together, in a way that sounded full and right on.

    She prefers classical, so it was a treat to hear her do metal :)