How Abut This for a Runway??

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  1. flyandscuba

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    All I have to say is: WWWWEEEEEEEEEE!!

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    Think that's a takeoff or a landing?

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    Looks like the scene from Air America.
     
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    What you dont see are the 50' trees right behind the camera man ;f

    I would hope takeoff, can you imagine trying to reduce AS and getting into ground effect on that thing!
    Yike's!!!!
    You would float all the way down!!!!!
    Any location on it?
     
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    It's a cute picture but, all *I* have to say is:

    "Photoshop"

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    Sorry to disappoint JB,

    It's not a photoshop -- but genuine. The airplane taxis to the top and takes off going down hill. The first little bump on the down hill (where the airplane is) acts kinda like the "jump" on the front of British aircraft carriers.

    In the larger full resolution image that I have you can see that the track marks on the runway match up with the tricycle gear -- as well as appropriate shadows.

    I'll ask the friend who gave it to me where it is located, but I think I remember somewhere in Brazil.
     
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    flyandscuba:
    You stated "In the larger full resolution image that I have you can see that the track marks on the runway match up with the tricycle gear -- as well as appropriate shadows."

    Yes but, the tracks go all the weay to the bottom. Is there a pile of wrecked Cessnas that didn't 'jump'? I don't think so.

    Also - how do the aircraft get to the top of the hill? They surely as hell don't land going up it. Let me guess - there's a perfectly good 3000' runway just behind the crowd on top of the hill.

    Your friend can state all day that the photo is real; I'm not buying.

    JB
     
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    How about this one -- do you think it is a photoshop?
     
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    Also, the hill photo was taken with a very long range lens -- causing the image to appear more "compressed" than in reality. And yes, they do land uphill, hence the rest of the tracks. I know, you'll never be convinced...
     
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    Wasn't this photo in a recent issue of Plane and Pilot mag? It looks familier.
     
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    I know several years ago there wa an article in Private Pilot about difficult airports that had several shots similar to this one.
     
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    flyand scuba:

    I think it odd that the Sukhoi can fly just off the water and not disturb it at all. No prop wash; no wingtip vortices; no nothin'.

    You were spot on: I *do* think it's a fake. Bah! Humbug!

    JB
     
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    Guess you didn't view the video clip in the following post....;)
     
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    Or know much about aerodynamics......... ;f
     
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    No, I didn't view the clip. It wouldn't run on my workstation.

    HKMark23: What part of "aerodynamics" don't I understand? Are you saying that it's entirely possible to fly just above the water's surface and not disturb the air and the water? Maybe on *your* planet it is, but aerodynamics on Earth follow the laws of physics.

    Yes, I have a pilot's certificate; private, land and sea. I've been flying for 11 years, and reading/studying flying for 30 years.

    Maybe the photos are real. I don't think so, and really don't care. Posting more of them won't persuade me that the first one is real.

    Now, the Red Bull air race in Budapest was *real* flying.

    http://home.scarlet.be/~mirhaus/airrace.wmv

    JB
     
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    Never said that, what I am saying is that it is possable for an aircraft to not disturb the water CURRENTLY under it.



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    Note how the water is disturbed where the aircraft decnded above the water before changing its flight path (leveling off) Its wingloading was highest at that point (normally around 12-14lbs ft/sq) and disturbed the the water there.

    If the picture was taken a few seconds later or you were viewing a film, you would see that after the aircraft passed the water would be disturbed somewhat. But not all that much.

    Also remember that air is compressable, water is not, it has to be displaced.
     
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    HKMark23,

    No sense in wasting your time to reason with him -- he says he doesn't care and won't be convinced no matter what the evidence (not a wise trait for an aviator).... but yet he cared enough to mistakenly call something a fake at the beginning. ;Q

    I'm seaplane rated too -- and I can approach a glassy water surface, arrest my descent with power -- then continue to fly just above the water in slow flight the full length of the lake with virtually no disturbance to the water's surface.

    I think he was expecting this.....

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    Oh, I'm sure this will be labeled a fake too!;f
     
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    Well jeeez! That is just a model in a bath tub!
    ;f