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Hot Hatches! (And other sporty economical cars)

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Red Stick, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. Red Stick

    Red Stick

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    The recent Fiat Abarth vs Ford Focus ST thread inspired me to start this. Let's talk about cars that are economical to purchase, get reasonably good mpg's, and have a performance aspect and are fun to drive.

    About a week ago we traded a 2010 VW GTI for a 2014 Focus ST. The GTI was a good car. Fun to drive, averaged about 26 mpg with mixed driving but I'm really impressed with this Focus. Ford has really done a nice job on this car. Great quality so far, and much more fun to drive than the gti. Great power and handling.

    We briefly considered a brz/ frs but they're just to small for us. Also the Fiesta ST. They get great milagr and I'm sure are a blast to drive but are pretty small. The Golf R looks great but just to expensive for a small hatch IMO, at least for me.

    Ford has done a nice job on the fost and fist and has them priced very competitively.


    What cars do you own or are interested in that fit this niche?
     
  2. Herzeleid

    Herzeleid Kein Mitleid

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    I never understood "souping" up a hatch/4 banger. The exhaust is just going to sound like the video below.....

    oh and IBT DanaT says murrican muscle sux/can't handle on the track/ his civic is better.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsJ22TNCKJA"]Ring ding ding ding.... - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  3. mrmedina

    mrmedina NRA Member

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    Adjuster

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    Remember the old Dodge Omni GLH. For a brief moment it was the quickest car in production. The rumor was GLH stood for 'Goes Like Hell'!

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  5. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Oh dear me. A OMNI!? No. HELL no. That thing (well, the base model) had one good thing going for it - the driver's seat was comfy as hell. Otherwise, it was a total POS-mobile - hence the reason you NEVER see them on the road anymore.

    My wife had one. Got suckered into it. :upeyes:

    My favorite foible was the front ws wiper fluid container was about a cup to cup-and-a-half in capacity.

    REAR washer reservoir? It held something like 3 quarts of fluid. :facepalm:
     
  6. sciolist

    sciolist

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    '88 CRX

    It probably is.
     
  7. 9jeeps

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    Dodge Omni; Plymouth Horizon! 1978 Car of the year???. Horizon was mine. First the paint went dull and rubbed off if you polished it. Ballast resistors went out like a cheap light bulb!
    Carbs would crack and new ones were not cheap! Back axel was out of alignment and I could only get about 12k miles out of a tire set. There were many other problems and the only car that made me cry as it had a knack of breaking down at the point the very farthest from a garage.
     
  8. patriot550

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    Just because you don't "get it" doesn't mean others won't. Like this guy...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqWhvM8k1Tc"]#9 HD Ken Block Drifting On Ford Fiesta (Gymkhana 5; San Francisco City) - YouTube[/ame]
     
  9. Herzeleid

    Herzeleid Kein Mitleid

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    I think there was just a thread on this in regards to nurburgring times and American cars.

    I'd go have a gander, if I were you. :supergrin:
     
  10. RHVEtte

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    I've heard good things about the Mazdaspeed 3, though I'm fortunately at the point in life where buying a two door car with a letter slot trunk has minimal impact. Kind of debating between the BRZ and the MX-5.


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  11. DanaT

    DanaT Pharaoh

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    I guess I need to go buy a civic, huh?
     
  12. DanaT

    DanaT Pharaoh

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    How about we meet there on the 9th? You can show me how well you do...
     
  13. Bushflyr

    Bushflyr ʇno uıƃuɐɥ ʇsnɾ Millennium Member

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    :upeyes: Obviously never heard a good Boxer.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxexrTWD1c4"]The 800HP Subaru STi - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeydxNHVa4"]Z06 vs 450hp STi - YouTube[/ame]

    I've only got 270 AWHP, but with no lag and massive suspension travel it's a super fun car to drive every day.

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  14. sciolist

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    The Z28 time was impressive, but the Ring is wide open. I'd put my STi up against pretty much any "muscle" car on a road course. Although it's not a hatch, and even the Sciolist doesn't want to get into bench racing on GT. :)
     
  15. CourtCop

    CourtCop Millennium Member

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    The Mazdaspeed 3 is a 4 door (5 if you count the hatch) hatchback with a fairly large trunk.

    Sent from my ADR6350 using Ohub Campfire mobile app
     
  16. Bushflyr

    Bushflyr ʇno uıƃuɐɥ ʇsnɾ Millennium Member

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    :supergrin: I've tracked my WRX a couple times and almost never got passed. Not because it's the fastest thing out there, there's plenty of faster cars, but because it's one of the most forgiving and easiest cars to drive fast. After the first few laps sliding sideways at 100mph and steering with the throttle while carrying on a conversation about the finer points of driving technique was no big thing. Something I'd really be scared to do in a much "faster" RWD car.

    Kind of like the test Superbike did a few years back where they took a n00b rider, an experienced street rider, a recreational tracker, and a pro rider and put them on a 600, a 750, a liter bike, and a full race bike for timed laps. Nearly all of them were faster on the smaller bikes except for the pro. The ability to flog the 600 with impunity won out over the extra power of the 1k monsters for all the riders except the pro.
     
  17. gigab1te

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    I don't own one, but I think the Mazda Miata is a strong contender. If you throw out the mpgs requirement, you can get a classic mustang or 80s or 90s corvette, etc., in driveable condition for well under $10K.
     
  18. Deanster

    Deanster Cheese? Millennium Member CLM

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    I keep thinking I should get a Mazdaspeed 3 to buff up my stick skills before it's time to teach the kids how to drive stick.

    See baby? It's FOR THE KIDS!!!!
     
  19. tehan2

    tehan2 NRA & GOAL

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    VW R-32

    they're pretty kick ass
     
  20. DanaT

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    The A3 quattro 3.2 is very similar...but not made anymore...just more upscale