I see alot of talk about Ranger T's and HST's and Gold Dots. I think these are all great i have carried Gold Dots in a few different calibers. Why no love for the XTP? I have tested these in these caliber/weights. .357 Sig: 147 and 124 grain .45 ACP: 230 grain +P, Custom and TAP, both XTP. 10 mm: 155 and 200 grain .44 Magnum: 180 and 240 grain Muzzle loader .50 cal: .429" 240 grain XTP I have tested these through deer, denim and water jugs. I realize its not Gelatin but its the best I can do. 100% of these rounds expanded with boring consistancy. The jacket has never separated. They always penetrate like crazy. It has been very difficult to capture the .357 sig bullets. I always underestimate the number of jugs it takes to stop one. When the show is over, there are no talons, not really any petals, no gold dot just good old fashioned reliable expansion. I am not trying to take away from any other bullet design. There are alot of great ones out there. A lesson I learned in Fishing is that alot of times fisherman buy lures that they think look good, that appeal to them, rather than judging them by performance in a given application. I think maybe people are distracted by the prettiness of bullet expanded through gel in perfect conditions. I think the XTP doesnt get as much attention because they dont fold open with 6 mini chainsaws or dont release diamond tipped throwing stars in the target. Too boring. Just a thought. These bullets never cease to amaze me. Anyone have better/worse experience with these?