Both of these bullets look good in gel tests but I've never seen any street results for them. Asking Massad Ayoob over in GATE fairly recently, he hasn't heard of anything either. So, has anyone ever tested out either the Critical Defense or Critical Duty on actual flesh? Could be as simple as shooting them into a pork shoulder or maybe you've taken a coyote or even a deer (if legal) or boar with them. I'd kinda like to know if they will expand in real tissue as well as shown in ballistic gel.