Home Defense Shotgun - Mossberg or Remington

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by BillG174, Oct 25, 2020.

  1. BillG174

    BillG174

    Messages:
    559
    Likes Received:
    321
    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2014
    Location:
    Lenexa, KS (Kansas City Metro)
    I have three Glocks for CCW. I am not a shotgun guy but I am trying to convince myself I should buy a home defense shotgun.

    I have read about the Mossberg 500 or 590 and the Remington 870. I have also read articles and reviews about both and as usual the Mossberg and Remington have various advantages and disadvantages.

    Does anyone have experience or opinions with these shotguns that you can share?

    Also with the current gun buying frenzy I would be surprised if I could find a new shotgun. I have looked on Armslist and Gunbroker. I have never bought a used firearm and I have never used a firearms "auction" site. Any thoughts or recommendations on this?

    Thanks very much, Bill
     
    catman71 likes this.
  2. Quijibo

    Quijibo King Doofus.

    Messages:
    5,417
    Likes Received:
    13,989
    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2005
    Location:
    N.E. Ohio
    I shoot lefty sometimes, shotty gotta have a tang safety.
     
    Peak Fudd, 83wide, Redeemed and 2 others like this.

  3. 6Actual

    6Actual Southern Backwater Mafia & President-Elect

    Messages:
    6,190
    Likes Received:
    18,851
    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    Location:
    Way South of you
    If you can find an older made 870 then good to go, otherwise I would select a Mossberg 590
     
  4. tallTexasdude

    tallTexasdude

    Messages:
    223
    Likes Received:
    375
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2020
    I own a Remington 870 pump with an 18” barrel. I can shoot quickly and accurately. Pretty basic but solid.

    Heard good things about the Mossberg as well.
     
    deputy tom likes this.
  5. ranger1968

    ranger1968

    Messages:
    12,821
    Likes Received:
    26,550
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2009
    Location:
    Wayyyyyy down South, shootin' stuff and Jeeping!
    I own numerous examples of both, you are good with either choice.
     
    seanmac45, Willard, beaversgs and 4 others like this.
  6. Butch_Coolidge

    Butch_Coolidge

    Messages:
    892
    Likes Received:
    1,215
    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2018
    Have an 870 that’s over 25 years old. Bought it for under $200.00, with chokes and a 28’ barrel. Solid shotgun. I’d like to find a short barrel for home defense. I believe it holds 9 shells.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  7. nikerret

    nikerret Mr. Awesome

    Messages:
    10,254
    Likes Received:
    5,327
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Location:
    Kansas
    The good news is: You can’t go wrong.

    My preference is toward the Moss 500. My absolute favorite. I like the tang safety (long guns are left handed, for me) and the weight/balance. I was issued one and went through the Academy with it.

    I was issued a 590, at my second agency. Solid shotgun. Heavy, but will last forever.

    The 870 just isn’t my favorite. Probably because the controls are not in the same place as the Mossbergs I’ve used and trained on. I have a H&R Pardner (870 clone, very inexpensive) I bought new, a few months ago. It works.
     
    Redeemed, ranger1968 and BillG174 like this.
  8. BillG174

    BillG174

    Messages:
    559
    Likes Received:
    321
    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2014
    Location:
    Lenexa, KS (Kansas City Metro)
    Thanks for mentioning you shoot left handed. I shoot my Glocks with my left hand as my strong hand and I focus on the front sight with my left eye. When I pick up a rifle or shotgun I naturally shoot with my right hand trigger finger on the trigger. It is hard for me to move my left eye over the sights. This might be a problem shooting a shotgun.

    I have been told you just have to point the shotgun in the general direction of the bad guy and shoot with no sighting, etc. I don't know if I believe that.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2020
  9. ACE31

    ACE31

    Messages:
    1,100
    Likes Received:
    1,892
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Location:
    Dixie Land
    Ford vs Chevy. Go to a gun shop and handle both to see which fits you better. Both have pros and cons but are solid choices.
     
    treg, glock1097 and larry_minn like this.
  10. Valmet

    Valmet M62/76 Silver Member

    Messages:
    11,925
    Likes Received:
    11,761
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2011
    Location:
    Richmond, Virginia
    Not really- always aim at what you’re shooting at, never simply point in a general direction, shotgun or not.

    If buying new, go with Mossberg, but I like older pre-Freedom Group 870s (prior time 2006 mfg).
     
  11. mist

    mist

    Messages:
    244
    Likes Received:
    428
    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2010
    Location:
    Eastern Tennessee
    Both are good quality firearms, but being left handed I prefer the Mossberg 500 and/or 590 due to placement of the safety. The Tang safety, for me, is much faster and easier to get the firearm ready to TCOB than the Cross-Bolt safety on the 870.
     
    6Actual likes this.
  12. nikerret

    nikerret Mr. Awesome

    Messages:
    10,254
    Likes Received:
    5,327
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Location:
    Kansas
    Watch some YouTube videos on how much shotguns spread with different rounds. You need to aim, same as a pistol. Yes, you can point shoot up very close. No, you can’t just shoot in the general direction, any other time.

    I’m left eye dominant and shoot all long guns left-handed, when possible.
     
    Willard likes this.
  13. DLL9mm

    DLL9mm

    Messages:
    4,042
    Likes Received:
    859
    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2009
    Location:
    MICHIGAN
    This
     
    deputy tom and 6Actual like this.
  14. MurrayNevada

    MurrayNevada USMC (MOS 0369) (RVN 69-70)

    Messages:
    2,434
    Likes Received:
    5,020
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2000
    Location:
    Nevada
    Good advice but I'll doubt he can find either in a in a gun store now.
     
  15. Gokyo

    Gokyo

    Messages:
    4,734
    Likes Received:
    5,572
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2005
    Location:
    Washington
    If I had to buy a tactical shotgun this is what I would buy, in order of preference

    1. FN SLP MKI
    476BDCF6-B472-4F3B-A06B-4BBC11933801.jpeg

    2. Mossberg 590a1. (18”)
    7851178B-B434-4605-AAB5-24224002ECAB.jpeg

    3. Mossberg 590a1 retro (20”)
    CC2501BA-3D5E-486F-A571-5FE8150004C8.jpeg
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2020
    mic214, xdmikey, treg and 2 others like this.
  16. ACE31

    ACE31

    Messages:
    1,100
    Likes Received:
    1,892
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Location:
    Dixie Land
    Then perhaps he has a few friends that have some. If not he is SOL.
     
  17. FAS1

    FAS1

    Messages:
    1,905
    Likes Received:
    1,343
    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    I'm not much help when it comes to pump shotguns because I don't have much experience with one. When I decided to buy a home defense shotgun I went the semi-auto route. I was concerned with short stroking a pump.

    This is like my Beretta 1201FP (6+1+1) w/20" barrel. I shot several steel plate side matches with it so I would be proficient with it. It's a very reliable and quick cycling gun (inertia action).

    [​IMG]
     
  18. JK-linux

    JK-linux

    Messages:
    5,637
    Likes Received:
    4,457
    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Shoot them both and buy the one you like better. Short of that, play with some in the store, and pick the one you like better. Maybe it isn't a popular opinion, but beyond personal preference for where controls are, they are identical in function for home defense. Their primary requirements are to sit there indefinitely in a climate controlled American home, and never get used except at the range... until the unlikely day they are asked to fire 0 to 8 rounds without jamming. Both are easily capable of that, and both are endlessly customizable. Buy whichever you like more. There's no "better" or "worse" choice here.
     
    Willard, doktor doom and SWFlGuy like this.
  19. larry_minn

    larry_minn Silver Member Millennium Member

    Messages:
    24,763
    Likes Received:
    19,302
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 1999
    Location:
    Minnesota
    They do expand. I’m hoping next gun show to exchange 2 870s. I just don’t care for them as much. 1 is un-fired. Useful tool. L started on Mossberg safety. But the 870 is easy to learn, I have a bit more trust in the 870.
     
  20. Kentucky fan

    Kentucky fan

    Messages:
    762
    Likes Received:
    1,908
    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2020
    I like my 590a1 a whole lot. I've had a lot of issues with newer Remington firearms so I avoid them like the plague. The old ones were fantastic I just prefer the 500 series over the 870.
     
    6Actual likes this.