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HK/Walther/Umarex MP5/416 Rimfires

Discussion in 'Rimfire Forum' started by GTS197, Apr 25, 2012.

  1. GTS197

    GTS197

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    Anyone running them? What are your thoughts on quality, reliability, etc...? How do they stack up in the new realm of 'Tactical Rimfires?
     
  2. KingWalleye

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    You might want to check for reviews at rimfire central.
    I had the Umarex/Colt M4 and it was a pos. The little I've seen on these is much better.
    For what it's worth I have had my Sig 522 for almost two years now and it has been excellent.
     

  3. eyelikeglasses

    eyelikeglasses Hooah, Hooah.

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    I can't speak for the M4 clones but the MP-5 .22 is fan-freakin-tastic!!!! I got my SD version back in September and after a few thousand rounds (want to say 3K but to be honest, I forgot exactly how many bulk packs I fed her) through it and haven't had a problem yet and her diet has been mainly Wal-Mart Remington bulk pack ammo. Cleaning as per the manual is easy although detail stripping and cleaning is a bit tougher but I only did it once and even then it wasn't being dirty causing any problems but just testing myself to see if I could do it. It's plenty bird and gopher accurate and really, just plain fun!!!
     
  5. 4TS&W

    4TS&W 2A RKBA 4EVER

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    I was going to ask the same thing about the browning 1911 - 22
     
  6. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    I'll grudgingly agree with this. I have a strong dislike for anything Umarex, especially the M4 pattern .22lr's. The MP-5 .22 must be a different in some material way that makes it good, because I've never heard anything bad about them.

    Here are the guts of a Umarex Colt M4 Ops upper. These are the same guts that are in the HK 416.

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    Some people have had nothing but success with their Umarex Colt M4/HK 416. I had nothing but problems.
     
  7. Camu Mahubah

    Camu Mahubah 9=Fine

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    I picked one up at the LGS and it felt great and aimed naturally. Made me want it really bad. But I'd think a Ruger 10/22 or MP15-22 is what I'd want if I wanted a rifle in .22lr.
     
  8. GTS197

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    Almost identical to the tear down of the MP5.
     
  9. GTS197

    GTS197

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    Couldn't stand it any longer. Bought one and took it out for the first time yesterday.

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    I worked on zeroing the open sights at 25 yds. The gun initially shot about 6" right and 8" high. I swapped the front sight post with the taller one and made several windage adjustments. I was finally able to get the windage corrected, but ultimately had to crank the diopter sight almost all the way down to get the POI close to the POA. I was able to get it set up with an acceptable zero at 25 yds, using a 6 o'clock hold. The orange target is 3" in diameter, using Fed Bulk.

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    Switched over to AE 36gr. and was able to tighten it up a bit (albeit a little to the left)

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    After the sight in, I started having a good time with it...rapid fire/steel plates.

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    Sighting issues aside, I'm happy to report that I ran a total of 390 rds through the gun without a single malfunction (would have gone longer, but expended all the .22 I had with me). I'm pretty impressed with it and plan on adding a claw mount and a dot optic. The stock didn't present a huge issue for me, but like others, am considering a fixed stock for comfort.
     
  10. 4TS&W

    4TS&W 2A RKBA 4EVER

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    Can you SBR or suppress that? That would be pretty cool..
     
  11. GTS197

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    I suppose you could. The barrel rides in a barrel sleeve and the faux supressor connects the threads at the muzzle. You'd have to machine the barrel, or just wait for a pistol type upper to be released (there are already rumors floating around about those coming out.)
     
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    My H&K MP5SD has been spot on. I love the gun. I have put about 1500 rounds of varying ammo, even bulk Wally World stuff and have not had a hitch. Looks great, feel like quality and is fun as all get out.