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I deferentiate HIT (High Intensity Training) from HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training)

1. HIT is weights
2. HIIT is cardio/anaerobic ... I've been there done that in swimming and running

Anywho, some years ago a friend of mine named Mike, introduced me (Mike) to Mike Mentzer's philosophy. I made rapid gains but the two of us worked like dogs for about an hour. In all humbleness I tell you that others would stop to watch and make comments while shaking their heads.

What I learned was:

  1. it is uncomfortable
  2. if you believe "more is better" then you'll burn out on HIT, or you'll slack so you can do more
  3. it requires a partner who is "down for the struggle" and subscribes to the same philosophy
  4. you need a lifting partner to safely execute your "work" set to failure. being pinned under a bar is dangerous and embarrassing.
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Maybe I'm off base. I think that HIT is more physique oriented than performance oriented.

How many D1 football programs have HIT-style training? Do the Bulgarians use a HIT protocol?

Form or function?
 

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Maybe I'm off base. I think that HIT is more physique oriented than performance oriented.

How many D1 football programs have HIT-style training? Do the Bulgarians use a HIT protocol?

Form or function?
I would say it's more physique oriented in general. But, it will tax your fast twitch fibers the most. I think it's great for people looking for explosiveness and strength. Many "athletes" probably don't use it because it's not necessarily good for muscle endurance. I know if I was still playing football I wouldn't use it.

Since I focus more on bodybuilding, I use Mike's Heavy Duty philosophy. I got some of my friends to try it out and we haven't switched back yet. I will drop the intensity and do maybe 3 working sets @ 75% to give my joints and ligaments a rest every 7-8 weeks, though.
 

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Comments, discussions, personal experience.

I deferentiate HIT (High Intensity Training) from HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training)

1. HIT is weights
2. HIIT is cardio/anaerobic ... I've been there done that in swimming and running

Anywho, some years ago a friend of mine named Mike, introduced me (Mike) to Mike Mentzer's philosophy. I made rapid gains but the two of us worked like dogs for about an hour. In all humbleness I tell you that others would stop to watch and make comments while shaking their heads.

What I learned was:

  1. it is uncomfortable
  2. if you believe "more is better" then you'll burn out on HIT, or you'll slack so you can do more
  3. it requires a partner who is "down for the struggle" and subscribes to the same philosophy
  4. you need a lifting partner to safely execute your "work" set to failure. being pinned under a bar is dangerous and embarrassing.
What say you all?
I'm not convinced that there's not more overlap than difference between the two. And I've never see HIIT without some kind of weights/resistance. I don't know if all schools of thought teach this, but I know Pavel teaches not training to failure.
 

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I'm not convinced that there's not more overlap than difference between the two. And I've never see HIIT without some kind of weights/resistance. I don't know if all schools of thought teach this, but I know Pavel teaches not training to failure.
My only experience with HIIT was swimming and/or running. Rather than maintain a constant speed, or do intervals that were faster but not taxing, I was going all out for a specific time or distance then slowing down, then all out, then slowing down, ...
 

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I think no matter what program you choose, your body will respond as it is genetically predisposed to respond. I respond very well, too well, to running and my body wants to shed weight, including muscle.

I can "HIT" all I want but I'll never be confused with a body-builder or power lifter. With that said, more than once I've been complimented on how much I can lift considering how "small" I look.
 

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I want to be fat and really strong at the same time like lifters from the 70s. With cool facial hair, too. I saw it in a thread on Rip's forum.



Fat now. I'm halfway there.
 

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... But, it will tax your fast twitch fibers the most. I think it's great for people looking for explosiveness and strength. Many "athletes" probably don't use it because it's not necessarily good for muscle endurance. I know if I was still playing football I wouldn't use it.
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Care to elaborate on this?

I don't understand this because HIT is a bodybuilding method. If it was great for explosiveness and strength, then weightlifters and powerlifters would be using it.

Or I'm understanding you incorrectly. Wouldn't be the first time, LOL.
 

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My only experience with HIIT was swimming and/or running. Rather than maintain a constant speed, or do intervals that were faster but not taxing, I was going all out for a specific time or distance then slowing down, then all out, then slowing down, ...
I imagine people probably do it a variety of ways. I go intense, but probably not what you'd call all out. Generally I do a combination of heart rate monitor and RPE. I do short rests, either semi static rest or active recovery/rest. I experiement some with different intervals, though all the same in any given workout.
 

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I want to be fat and really strong at the same time like lifters from the 70s. With cool facial hair, too. I saw it in a thread on Rip's forum.



Fat now. I'm halfway there.
Um, which one of those guys is fat?

Looks like quality mass to me.
 

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Care to elaborate on this?

I don't understand this because HIT is a bodybuilding method. If it was great for explosiveness and strength, then weightlifters and powerlifters would be using it.

Or I'm understanding you incorrectly. Wouldn't be the first time, LOL.
HIT doesn't necessarily mean going until failure. OLs use a high intensity regiment. I don't ever remember seeing them train with 10-12 reps on mulitple sets. It's usually heavy weight and low reps. Same principle applies because your fast twitch fibers will be taxed the most under a heavier load.

Fast twitch fibers grow a great deal more in size and strength compared to slow twitch fibers.
 

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Um, which one of those guys is fat?

Looks like quality mass to me.
I think I meant in comparison to the nancyboys you see in advertising nowadays. That's the context it was in on the other board.
 
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