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Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Hokie1911, Mar 31, 2011.
One of his comments on his FB page about the review...
"S&W advised me that they are using my review to propose some production changes. I will provide updates when appropriate."
Sorry....that thing is Fugly...
Quack, Knedrgr, Lawdog, and I went to a show a last weekend and they had a bobtail one there. It was fuglier in person, and the serrated MSH was as slippery as K-Y.
Leave it to the beretta nut to say that he kinda likes the way that one looks
I was disappointed when I read the review. Bud's police has one for 6 something but I think I'll just keep saving.
Agreed, on looks...it doesn't have to be either. Easy fixes
maybe Chuck can turn it into a swan.
I thought the review was funny.
It broke down, malf'ed and wore out all the springs inside 1K rounds, but it's almost ready for duty use right out of the box.
Nothing like a 2k plus S&W 1911.....the term "lipstick on a pig" comes to mind.
Ain't that the truth!
I thought that was odd as well. In its price range that are a lot of "known performers" I'd choose first, even if the S&W was fugly.
Pass on any 1911 with an EE... The only guy I trust building one with an EE right now would be Paul from Pistol Dynamics.
When I see Hilton building HIS 1911 with an EE then I would view his "first impression" with a little less cynicism...
agree 110%! I'll stick with my cheaper fugly M&P9.
Given all the issues with internal extractors, the external one makes more sense. And the issue here was a roll pin coming loose, an easy fix for S&W. I'd put that up against worrying about tuning, clocking and hook geometry that internal ones have.
What's the problem with internal extractors? In hundreds of thousand of rounds down range with 1911's and a lot of hard use classes I haven't experienced any. If it needs to be tuned it takes a matter off minutes. The only 1911's that I have seen with issues are 3.5" 1911's that I don't trust to begin with.
There isn't a single Master 1911 smith that uses external extractors for their builds including Hilton. I think that shows the level of confidence in a tried and true system that works and is easy to tune... If it was really problematic you would see Ned and others using EE...
Paul Liebenberg is the only guy that I would trust doing them and S&W is no Paul L when it comes to 1911's.
get the best of both worlds and use the Aftec extractor
Usually you have to go to a gunshop to hear retarded crap like this.
Good policy, but I once read that S&W will not sell you a SW1911 extractor because you don't have the gauge and torsion wrench to properly install it.
So much for unfitted parts, it seems. Maybe they have changed their policy with the PC extractor. I always thought it strange they had two extractors, one for the standard guns, one for the PC. Seems the PC knew best after all.