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hiker missing since 2010???

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by *ASH*, May 28, 2012.

  1. *ASH*

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    Apparently, bureaucrats don't see things as obvious as you do.
     

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    I'm with ya ash, I'm kinda baffled by this, why didn't they look for him when he was reported missing?
     
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    Mountain rescue/SAR is very difficult, and very easy to miss someone.

    It takes alot of people, and alot of dedication to search a 14K mountain, and since most of those people are volunteers, it can make conducting said search difficult to track/organize/conduct.
     
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    i know its rough country , and wild animals , but something does not add up in this story . they knew his route ,

    and personally if i had family missing there would be a big search
    and then you got thieves stealing his **** . thats just low as hell
     
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    Maybe his significant other wouldn't submit to a polygraph. LE has gotten to where they won't even look for a missing person until everyone close to that person has submitted to a polygraph. Your tax dollars at work.
     
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    Possibly bureaucratic bad luck, but guessing there is a few details missing from the story.
     
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    This is extremely rugged country. Most of us have trouble finding lost items in our own backyards. Now multiply that by 164 trails and 50,000 acres. So...where do you want me to start?

    People get lost in the wilderness all the time. Some are found and some aren't.

    It doesn't mention it in the story but I would speculate that a search was done at the time. But when you have that much wilderness and not much to go on even the best Search and Rescue teams are unlikely to find anything.
     
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    I didn't see anything in the story where it said there wasn't a search conducted?

    I'd bet money that a search WAS conducted, they just never found him. The holy cross area is like 150 miles of trails between 8-14K ft. Thats a big, hard area to search.


    As for the "thieves" it really depends. If you come across a camp stove thats obviously been sitting out for 6-8 months and abandoned, is it really stealing?
     
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    Finkle is Einhorn...Einhorn's a man!
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LjwM3B688"]ace ventura - einhorn is a man - YouTube[/ame]

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    Simple enough... At that altitude in October. Could have frozen to death or died from exposure.
    Possibly was drug off by a critter or with altitude sickness became disoriented. Too many things that could have happened. He had some weight, Possible heart attack. ????
     
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    in that pic , he definately did not look fit enough to do what he did .

    when me and wife go camping we both have that spot locator , if you get in trouble its a lifeline , dunno why folks dont think of it .
     
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    Mostly because alot of people have never seen one. They're not terribly well marketed.
     
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    Ace Ventura reference. A guy steals a missing female hiker's ID.
    He kisses said "female" and that is his reaction. Sorry, adding a little gallows humor to a sad situation.

    Red
     
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    OK. I didn't get the connection. I see it now.
     
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    Still not catching it but it's been a long day. :rofl:
     
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    His boots are still with his belongings yet his body was found 120ft away...

    Could be he died in his tent and the body was dragged away by a large predator, or he was so ill that he wandered away from the campsite disoriented and died out there.

    Hopefully, the coroner can rule out foul play by examining the remains...
     
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    This is my bow/rifle hunting unit and to call it extreme would be pretty accurate, Holy Cross Wilderness is not for everyone, I don't disagree that something sounds fishy here but the length of time to find the campsite is no surprise to me, they did report that some of his things were missing which would indicate someone found the campsite and then decided to take his things rather then report the dead body. If it is any indication remember the A10 Warthog that crashed in Colorado some years ago and it took a couple months to find the wreckage? that was about 10-12 miles due west of this area, multiple 14,000' peaks and 4000-5000 vertical feet to the base of the valley. Wonderful Elk hunting

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    LOL....look at the experts who showed up in this one just to get a jab in at 'bureaucrats'. All you are doing is making yourself look like a fool to people who know the reality of wilderness SAR in the mountains.

    After all...they only had 150 square miles to search at 14k....they should have knocked that out if a couple of hours.:upeyes:
     
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