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Help on loads for BAR 30-06

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by FM12, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. FM12

    FM12 I need AMMO!

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    Starting to reload for my new (but used) BAR in 30-06. Only powders I have are H335 and IMR 4350. Will be shooting mostly 150 JSPs/spitzers. Any help, tips, pointers, dos donts? Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. gforester

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    Hodgdon specifies 54-58 grains IMR4350 under a 150 grain Nosler loaded to 3.250" with the 58 grain load being compressed. Velocity ranges form 2745 to 2792fps. With H335 you can load from 47 to 51.5 grains.
     

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    fredj338

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    Reloading manuals are invaluable. IMO, H335 is too fast for the best results in the 06. You'll have to work your loads up, all rifles are diff. You can make it go bang w/ any load but if you want the best load for your rifle, you have towork it up. The BAR has the strength to handle full power loads but not the camming action of a bolt gun. Full length sizing will be mandatory.
     
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  4. steve4102

    steve4102

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    Just got done working up loads for my BAR 30-06. 53gr of R-17 behind 180gr Sierra SBT #2160 is scary accurate in this thing. Never though this old BAR would ever shoot this good.
     
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    Hornady, Sierra , and Nosler all make very accurate bullets, give IMR 4350 a try it can be super accurate.
     
  6. freakshow10mm

    freakshow10mm 10mm Advocate

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    BAR as in the semi-auto "sporting" rifle or BAR as in the fully automatic "machine gun"?
     
  7. FM12

    FM12 I need AMMO!

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    FRKSHOW: Sporting version. Wish I had me a real BAR, tho, like Steve McQueen (The Sandpebbles)and others in the movies have used over the years. Talk about rock N roll!!

    Thanks for all the info. Love me some Browning stuff and the 06 also!
     
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    OK. IMR4895 is your friend. So is full length sizing. 47gr of that with a 150gr bullet is a good load.
     
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    JBnTX

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    I agree.:thumbsup:

    I use IMR 4895 for my M1 Garand loads. It's one of the best powders
    available for semi-auto rifles.

    46grs of IMR 4895, Winchester large rifle primers and a 150gr Sierra BTHP
    is a safe, accurate and easy to shoot load in my M1 Garand.

    It should work just fine in a BAR.

    ..
     
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  10. FM12

    FM12 I need AMMO!

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    Gonna try to find a bucket of IMR 4895 today ifn ther gun store is open! Will report back. THANKS fpr all the replies!!
     
  11. m2hmghb

    m2hmghb

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    4895 or Varget would be my choices.
     
  12. byf43

    byf43 NRA Endowment Life Member

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    For a good shooting load with 'Ball' powder -

    47.7 gr of W-748
    Sierra 165 gr BTHP GameKing bullets
    Winchester or Federal Brass
    Winchester LR primer.

    You can even switch off to the 168 gr BTHP MatchKing bullets for some really good, accurate '06 loads.

    This is for the 'Sporting' BAR, NOT the 1918 series B.A.R.
     
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    When you are all done fooling around with those fast powders, get some R-17 and make that rifle sing.
     
  14. GIockGuy24

    GIockGuy24 Bring M&M's

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    H-335 doesn't give very good case fill in 30-06. Because of this 150 grain bullets should be the heaviest used with H-335 and it should be loaded near the maximum load for best case fill. Even then, it can be a problem and a hot primer is required. H-335 is not a great choice for 30-06.

    The factory loaded Hornady 150 grain SST load is 58.5 grains of IMR-4350. This is about a maximum load. Hornady cases are made by Winchester and Hornady uses Winchester primers. I believe the cartridge length is around 3.230". Hornady says this was the most accurate load they tested during load development.