Help a FNG. Trying to find 40 load data.

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  1. 188mule

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    New to glocktalk. Saw a thread on a different sight talking about something called 40 s&w club on here. Tried searching can't find it. Basically looking for load data for 180 and 200 hardcast coated lead for the .40.. Thanks
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    A good place to start is the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook, 4th ed. There are loads listed for 180 and 200 gr cast bullets. About 12 powders each.

    My pet load for a 200 gr WFN heat treated and powder coated bullet is with Longshot. 6.0 gr. 1.130".

    I have loaded hot 180s with jacketed, but not cast. If I were to load hot 180 cast ammo, Longshot would be what I grabbed first.

    There is no load data to reference, so please do your own workups at your own risk. This load might have excessive pressure. If you are a new loader, recommend sticking with book data.
     
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    Look at the powder makers website.
     
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    Good advice, but cast bullet data on the powder mfg sites is scarce. Accurate does have some data though.
     
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    Not new to reloading. Been loading a 180 grain hard cast fp coated bullet for a few years now. I use once fired brass with 6.75 gr of 800x. Nice plinking load. Looking to spice up my load life a bit!
     
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    According to the Lyman manual, that same charge would be a hair over max for a 180 cast. Have you chronied it?

    Lyman has the max load at 1055 fps from a 4" barrel. That's pretty spicy for a 40.
     
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    Is actually averaging closer to 6.6 grains. IF. The powder drop is only cycled once. If I run into a case or primer problem and I cycle my 550 more than once without dropping the powder charge I have it set to drop no more than 6.75 grains. Haven't chrono'd this load.
     
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    Got several of these for other calibers. Like em!
     
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    Not to be nitpicky, but it is unlikely that 800-X is dropping to the 5 hundredths of a grain. That is one powder that gives spooky irregularity through powder measures. I am not alone in that experience.
     
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    Good advice. I have 2 of them in 10/40. Gotta watch out though. Loadbooks are slow to correct errors. I can give examples of where the source manuals made corrections, but Loadbooks did not catch up for a couple of years.

    The way I use them is to get quick access to the loads I'm looking for. Then I'll go to the source data to confirm.
     
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    No I haven't chrono'd it. I Will now. But really liked the way this load shot/functioned so never even thought to check it.
     
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    O.k. got me thinking. So I checked 10 powder drops. 6.6 , 6.5, 6.5, 6.4, 6.4, 6.6, 6.7, 6.6, 6.8 average of 6.56grains. Did however get that 6.8. Only a sample of ten however.
     
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    That’s what I use and to good effect for every caliber I load.
     
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    No sir, you are not alone in that. I use a trickier with 800X if loading near max pressures for that reason. It tends to meter like corn flakes.
     
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    My usual load for easy plinking with 40 S&W is a 180 grain hard cast or plated flat point loaded to 1.135 and 5.6 grains of unique. It’s quite accurate and pretty soft shooting.
     
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    Got around 6000 rounds thru my 550. Mostly using 800x some 700x. Loading .45 a co .40 and .38. I haven't run into a charge irregularity that was dangerous. I check a couple in each 100 rounds.
     
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    What kind of spreads are you guys seeing with the 800x?