Just out of curiosity, seeing how ya'll handled color-coding your helmets (we just switched our system). We have: Yellow (turtle shell-style): EMS-only personnel. Yellow (Cairn 1000 with "R" stickers): Rookie Firefighters (Passed Fire I, but still relatively "new", or firefighters who have been around a while but have yet to run a working fire). Black (Cairn 880/1010): Firefighters who are able to function independently on their own, and can handle any task assigned to them without supervision. Blue: Firefighter/Lieutenant. Red: Firefighter/Captain. White: Firefighter/Chief. ---------------------------------------------------- Back in the old days it used to be relatively the same, but instead of black helmet's we just took the R's off of the helmets of those who had proven themselves in a fire. However, we recently had to order new helmets, and thus instituted the change. Another problem was up until this there was no way of determining EMS only personnel as some firefighters had to use turtleshell's due to a lack of Cairn 1000 helmets, so EMS personnel just got rookie helmets, thus making some incident officers assume they were firefighters. As there were very few EMS-only personnel with turnout gear (those assigned it were extremely active personnel who went on a significant number of calls requiring gear, such as rescues), there never was a huge push to get stickers or other identifying devices issued (usually a star of life sticker on a helmet simply means you're also EMS qualified in addition to being a firefighter). Unfortunately some of our nearby stations (as well as mutual aid stations) have completely dif. schemes... thus causing confusion. In P.G. county next door, a red helmet means "exterior only" firefighter, not a captain. In other jurisdictions, a blue helmet means "EMS-only", not FF/LT. This can cause chaos on scenes in which responders aren't familiar with the schemes used by nearby stations (imagine a rookie firefighter from P.G. county telling one of our captains to throw ground ladders because he assumed the red helmet meant he was a rookie). Usually incidents like this are few and far between, and when they do crop up are rectified quickly, but they do show that no nation-wide system can result in a royal charlie foxtrot popping up every now and then. Thoughts/comments/questions?