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Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Skyhook, May 8, 2012.

  1. Skyhook

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    Its been voted down by every state that had it up for referendum.

    Only activist courts have let it stand, or forced the issue.
     

  3. Gunhaver

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    That's because it's a civil rights issue and the vote of the majority shouldn't affect the civil rights of the minority so on this matter the courts are correct when they do that and you would agree if they reversed a referendum to ban guns.

    This isn't a matter of majority opinion. It's a matter of "what the hell do you care if someone is treated the same way as you?"
     
  4. Skyhook

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    There's some merit in what you say, yet, the legislation via judicial appointees catches in the craws of many of us.

    All too often we have seen appointed suck-up political judges virtually negate legislation and even some Constitutional Laws.

    Been watching that ninth circuit (circus)?
     
  5. JohnnyReb

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    Marriage is a religious institution. If two gay people (as much as I disagree with that behavior upon my personal beliefs) want to be joined in union, lets call it something else.

    "Civil unions"
     
  6. Just1More

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    Marriage isn't a civil right.
     
  7. fortyofforty

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    Just curious if you support polygamy.
     
  8. Jonesee

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    All the arguments made against gay marriage are the same as the arguments against interracial marriages and civil rights in general in the 50s and 60s.

    Almost identical. Some of you that remember the 50s and 60s know this too.

    Unnatural, against god's way, not covered by any of the bill of rights, state laws pre-empt federal court, cannot be legislated, etc. In time all these objections were shot down. Alabama and Mississippi did not walk quietly into recognizing civil rights, but they got there just the same.

    We have been down this road before but it was much more bloody then. The end-point will be the same for all the same reasons. It is just a matter of time before it is accepted. Gay marriage may not be spelled out in the constitution, but civil rights are and have been thoroughly tested in the the courts of the land including the Supreme Court. Marriage is no more than the legal recognition of a civil union (relationship).
     
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  9. Skyhook

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    Yes, that should work.

    Unless the aim of the movement is to destroy "redefine" traditional marriage.

    When 'marriage' is destroyed, ah, er, redefined (fundamentally transformed)- I intend to marry my 'best friend'.. my hunting dog.:supergrin: Then the furry Mrs. Hook can receive all the bennies of human women who are foolish enough to actually participate in a traditional marriage.

    An-n-n-nd, anyone objecting will be labelled 'racist' or 'intolerant'.. ewwwwww.
     
  10. frank4570

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    A wedge issue that politicians use to get emotional people to vote for them. Then they can ignore this minor issue and get down to the real agenda, with the blessings of their supporters.
     
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  11. Jonesee

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    Quite simply, your dog, an animal, is not afforded rights as you are.

    But make that illogical leap if you choose to.
     
  12. beforeobamabans

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    Here you see the success of the pretzel logic of the "gay rights" movement. Unfortunately, they have been successful equating a behavioral abnormality with a genetic civil right. And herein lies the ultimate difference and why no one should be able to get away with this equation. Being "gay" in no way equates to being a member of a certain race. It equates with other deviant behavior such as adultery, alcoholism, drug addiction, pedophilia and any other behavioral perversity. Do not attempt to equate a behavioral perversion to a civil right. They are not the same.
     
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    Homosexuality is not the same as adultery, alcoholism, drug addiction, pedophilia.


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  14. Jonesee

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    Keep trying. You are confusing your moral stance with civil rights afforded to all citizens. You directly equated being gay with criminal activity.

    Being gay is not a crime. Homosexuality has already been upheld as protected for civil rights. The argument is not if they are afforded rights,,, they are. The question is will their unions be recognized as marriage.
     
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    Why people care what other people do is simply, laughable. Live and let live.
     
  16. frank4570

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    Your logic is kind of silly.
     
  17. Gunhaver

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    Really? What would you say if you see people all around you getting married without any issues and then when you and a woman decided to do it you were denied simply because somebody said they didn't like something about you? What if you did get married and were denied the ability to visit your wife in the hospital or file taxes together while you see other married couples do it all the time? Wouldn't you feel discriminated against?
     
  18. fortyofforty

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    Just curious if you support polygamy. :popcorn:
     
  19. Jonesee

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    Where is on the ballot or in the court system?
     
  20. fortyofforty

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    Where did I say it was on the ballot or in the court system?

    Just curious if you support polygamy. :popcorn: