".......having to drag Trump out of the WH in Nov."

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  1. Doc McGlock

    Doc McGlock

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    I posted this below in the thread about Trump mentioning delaying the elections and heard, and I am paraphrasing, that:

    "Listening to an X22 report podcast last night, the narrator said that the reason for mail in ballots is to clog up the end results, possibly for 3,4,5,6 months, which then, Congress could appoint an "interim President" of their choosing, until the election result finally come in.

    This is what Nancy and Hillary possibly meant by 'having to drag Trump out of the WH!' "

    Anyone else hear about this possibility and does anyone know the Constitutional position on this possibility in an extended delay in declaring a winner?

    I firmly believe that the left cannot "honestly" win in Nov and the left is playing every wild card they hold in their hands. I put nothing past these vermin to steal this upcoming election.

    We also see how log the left dragged out the Muellar debacle, impeachment, and now the attempt to force mail in voter fraud, why not delay the election results?
     
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    They couldn’t drag him out til late January.
     
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    I think the Electoral College actually elects the president. No need to put a temporary congressionally elected Fuerer in there.
    Our vote is just for statisticians and pollsters to fake up some way later.
    I think coercion of the electors is our real concern. They distract us with this looting, political theatre and mail in, hanging-chafe kinda crap, meanwhile they "lever" the electors into voting their way! Ethics, morality and decency are pretty far down these people's list of priorities.
     
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  4. Doc McGlock

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    We saw how long they dragged out the Bush/Gore election. Mail in ballots are still being fought over in NY, as we post. The left has nothing to lose by delaying the results.

    I could see this dragged out over many, many months, at least until they could print up enough bogus ballots.
     
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    IMHO, mail in ballots are a bad idea. If wearing a mask is so effective, then why not allow normal in person voting?

    Not trying to get all tin foil hat, but clogging up the vote counting is probably what the DNC wants.

    My question is if the election becomes a Charlie Foxtrot with the mail in ballots, will the president enact National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive 51 until the election debacle is decided?


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  6. thewitt

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    The procedure for resolving a contested election has been changed over the years, but - and here's the scary part - it has historically been decided by the House... The procedures in Article II of the Constitution have been both amended, AND modified by House and Senate rules, so there is a great deal of confusion I think today on exactly what procedures are to be followed.

    The timing however is not going to allow months of contested election results. It will be over very quickly.
     
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    How is this handled constitutionally?

    thewitt,

    Our posts crossed. Thanks.
     
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    Trump does not want to postpone anything he's playing them.
     
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    I am unaware of any law that gives Congress the right to “appoint” the executive. There is a line of succession that includes the Speaker but I don’t think even Democrats are stupid enough to try something like that. The backlash would be deafening with court action also coming into play.
     
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    It starts in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution.

    This was modified by the 12th and 25th Amendments.

    House and Senate rules have also been changed to define their respective roles in the event of a contested election.

    And yes, there is precedent where the House has chosen someone who probably should NOT have been selected based on the counted votes...

    Here's a little history on contested Presidential elections.
    https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Electoral-College/
     
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    On January 20 the President's and Vice President's terms are terminated by statute.

    At that point if the winner has not been determined the Speaker of the House is next in succession. (per the legal scholars)

    Clearly if the country reaches that point we are in a constitutional crisis.

    It is fair to assume by that time the Supreme Court will have become involved and will have the last word.

    As for Trump delaying the election, that is also set by statute. He would need to get a bill through the House and the Senate to accomplish postponing the election. From the comments on both sides of the aisle yesterday in both the House and the Senate that will not happen.
     
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    It doesn’t matter. No matter which way it goes, there will be accusations of fraud and likely violence on the streets. Sooner if Trump wins. Somewhat later, but more severe if Biden wins.

    The ideological divide in this country can no longer be resolved or managed at the ballot box. Hope everyone stays safe on election night and the days after.
     
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    I'm no Constitutional scholar, but it sounds like if the President and Vice President have not been chosen by January 20th, then Congress can choose a President and Vice President until the election is squared away.

    However, while the office of the President and Vice President ends on the 20th, offices of the Senate and House end on the 3rd.

    If the election for President is in question due to mail in voting, then the election of those senators and Representatives up for election will also be in question, and will be out of office on the 3rd.

    Therefore, it would seem that we would have an incomplete and partial Congress left to make the decision. Depending on who's up for election this year, the majority of the remaining members of Congress after January 3rd, could tip either way. The Constitution doesn't seem clear on this matter.

    Amendment XX

    Proposed 2 March 1932
    Ratified 23 January 1933


    1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

    2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

    3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

    5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.

    6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.
     
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    Maybe the dems will be woke to the worth of the electoral college
     
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    What this says is that the NEXT Congress will be making the decision... Another reason we have to maintain the Senate and get the House back from the socialists.
     
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    That's what I thought. However, if the Presidential election is in dispute, won't all the Senators and Reps that have elections this year also be in dispute?

    If the nature of the dispute is over mail in ballots that are missing, haven't been counted, haven't been verified, etc?

    There are 35 Senators up for election and all 435 House seats are up for election.

    So, if the election is in question due to mail in voting, then we effectively have no Congress after January 3rd.


    **edit** it would be on a State by state basis, but if enough states go to mail in voting, it could pose a serious problem, not just for the Presidency, but for Congress as well.
     
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    THE END RESULT IS (FIGURE'S LIE WHEN LIARS FIGURE.) JUST LIKE ANY PIE CHART, GRAPH CHART, OR POLE, ETC, TAKEN BY ANY DEMOCRAT.
     
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    There will certainly be some Congressional races in dispute as well, but many of these are not very close to begin with, so how many will be hard to guess.

    The whole thing is set up to be on big ****-show and likely the most corrupt election in the history of the country.

    Sad to think that America's plunge into a Social Dictatorship, or more likely the next civil war, will be over an election that we allow to be run in the most fraudulent manner imaginable.
     
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    Me and the wife were talking and she said something like, "I guess this will be the end of America".

    To which I replied, "Nah, there's always war".

    Hope it never comes to that. But I'd say, there are more people who would rather die an American than live as a Socialist.
     
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    Tuner,

    This was exactly my thoughts. 1/3 and all 435 will be technically, undecided, which means that there is only the 2/3 senate, still legally sworn in. I doubt that there could be any logical compromise to choose a temporary Pres/VP!
     
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