[Old Buzzard 74]

You can't play the game very well if you don't know the rules!

 

[Old Buzzard 74]

Here is the problem I have. The State CCL says one thing. My 18 years of Firearms Training and my Federal retirement badge say another. I was trained to put two in the chest and one in the head as part of a Body Armor drill, that some like to call the Mozambique. State CCL course tells me head shots are murder. I was trained to shoot from 25 yards for 18 years. State CCL course tells me, I cannot engage past 15 yards, and must retreat if being fired on from a further distance. I was trained never to turn your back on a shooter, unless death was your goal. So, what ultimately takes primacy. My retirement Badge and Credentials, that I still carry, or the CCL course, and the CCL I carry. I want to know who wins in this one, Federal or State CCL.

If your not a cop then civilian rules apply. What statute in TX states you "cannot engage past 15 yards, and must retreat if being fired on from a further distance."?

 

[Old Buzzard 74]

CCL course regulations. My point is, I do have a badge (retired), and I do have credentials (retired), and I do posses a CCL. They can jam me up if they like, but training takes over, and it was never turn your back on a shooter.

You have to know if you are a cop or a civilian, by law. Then you will know what laws apply to you.

CCL course does not set State statutes, I am asking what specific statute states a person " cannot engage past 15 yards, and must retreat if being fired on from a further distance." not what some LTC instructor thinks and or teaches. if there is no statute the maybe some case law?

ETA I am genuinely interested in knowing about the must retreat.

 

[Old Buzzard 74]

Everything he has posts is BS.

18 years training he does not know if Federal or State law takes precedence in a defensive shooting.

He calls it a CCL, when here in Texas it is CHL (old) or LTC (new).

No law/regulations says head shot is murder.

No law/regulations says cannot engage past 15 yards.

No law/regulations require retreat.

And then there is the claim he was trained Mozambique.

I bet he was also a Navy Delta Seal too.

I spend a lot of time reading and keeping up with TX carry and use of force laws, I am always learning, but I have learned not many people know where to find the statutes or what case law backs up things they know, or were taught. I still like to ask because I find things I missed all the time.

I would truly like to meet Kingathurhk, I have gone round and round with him her on GT, but I know I would enjoy have a cup of coffee, or a beer or 2 with him.

 

[Old Buzzard 74]

Yeah. I just default to training, after nearly 2 decades of that is hard not to. I just don't want to get jammed up.

Do you have carry insurance, if so a call to them would be a quick way to know what the people defending you would suggest.

 

[Old Buzzard 74]

I wish that when a person made the decision to carry, they would also make the decision to learn both safe gun handling, and the use of force laws where they carry.

I also know I can wish in one hand and poop in the other and see which one fills up first.