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Haunted Buick Question

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by JuneyBooney, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. JuneyBooney

    JuneyBooney

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    Ok fellas, I have been talking about the 94 Buick GS that I inherited and the charging problems. So I changed the positive battery cable and cleaned the connections at the junction box. It ran fine for about two weeks and now it is acting strange again. The battery gauge shows discharge and the turn signals blink slowly. In addition, on most occasions when it is warm, the car will not start right away..it clicks like a dead battery three or four times and then starts fine. I am wondering if the starter could cause a draw on the battery and act like this? I was trying to drive this car to save gas money but it is getting to be a pain in the rump. Anyone know of any car exorcists? :whistling: Thanks
     
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    Sounds like the starter is on its last legs, or the positive cable is coming loose at the starter. Also, be sure the rest of the wires are tight at the small (S) terminal on the starter solenoid.
     

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    Not a mechanic but it could be your alternator. I beleive you can check it buy starting the car and pulling the positive cable. If it turns off the alternator is bad.
     
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    This test only proves that the alternator isn't charging. There are many reasons, other that the alternator itself, that could cause an alternator to not charge. Also, this test can cause a good alternator to fail and is therefore not a recommended test.
     
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    It is just so strange. The car clicks..then starts fine but the gauge shows discharge. I don't think the alternator could cause such shenanigans...:upeyes: I think you are probably right...there is a heck of a current draw and I have heard tell of starter solenoids sometimes doing this. But the starter is 18 years old.
     
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    I know that removing the cable was always the way to test the alternator on older cars but then they claimed that the method would ruin computers. But it may be worth a quick check to see if the alternator is charging...but I replaced that two times last year with no change.

    This car gets 25 mpg versus 13 on my truck. So I hope to get her fixed.
     
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    I suggested this roughly a month ago? :impatient:

    Time to think outside the box...

    Are there any high-schools nearby with an autoshop?

    Another option might be to donate the car, take the deduction, and buy something simple, like a Samurai.

    Look for someone on Craigslist to trade. Describing the car as "haunted" is guaranteed to bring in extra value.

    Good luck Juney. :wavey:
     
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    Try cleaning the connections for the ground cable,at the battery and where it bolts to
     
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    Vex the progressives by burning gasoline! :strong:

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    Have you taken the car by one of the Auto Parts store that offer the free charging system testing?
     
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    The problem with voltmeters is that they show proper voltage. The system always checks fine but it is not fine. I even took it to a shop and they tested it and trued to say it was the gauge even when the turn signals were moving slow. It clearly shows low amps if the blinkers are slow.. The ole redneck way of checking the alternator was to disconnect the positive cable and see if it runs..even thought that is frowned upon it did check the alternator. I think it just wants to be a pain in the butt. :whistling:
     
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    I had a hippie chick living near me and she moved away. :crying:She drove a Prius...but I am going to be American and stick with gas. :cool:
     
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    Thanks, I will get it fixed either by repairing her or selling her and getting a new car. I just don't want to throw money into a pit like I did on that 700k Aesoatar I had. When they start costing money it may be time for them to leave home. :faint:
     
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    Sounds like a short someplace. Start at the starter and make sue everything is right. I wold also check the grounds I have seen weird **** caused by loose or corroded grounds

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    • Possibly a bad starter solenoid.
    Classic symptoms.

    GM starter solenoids used to be the verrrrrrry weak link in the starter system.
    They are mounted to the starter motor, and heat from the exhaust manifold would 'cook' the solenoid.
    • Starter motor brushes could be at fault, too.
    • One other thought. . . . electrical connections between battery/solenoid/starter motor.
    IF the car is hard to start when hot, the connections COULD BE corroded or only a couple of strands remaining un-corroded. (This has happened to me.)


    When the car starts, what kind of voltage readings do you get????
    • The alternator COULD be bad. (Voltage should be around 14.2 volts at the battery, with the engine running. The range is 13.8 - 14.2 IF memory serves me.)

    Do yourself a favor (well, the alternator, too!) - Do NOT run the car with the battery cable disconnected!!! You will FRY the alternator, diodes and internal voltage regulator!!!
    You CAN also do damage to the ECM.
     
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    Find the grounding strap to the engine.. if loose or corroded it can wreak havoc .
     
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    You need a new or rebuilt starter/solenoid assembly.
     
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