Just curious, I know on some forums you mention you got an idea from a game and the flames just start rolling in. However, I noticed when playing Sierra's Swat3 some years ago that many of my shots were indeed hitting my virtual opponent in the outstretched hand or arm if he was pointing a gun at me. It led me to believe the heavy bullet crowd had a point, you do need to shoot through things sometimes even if it is another part of your opponent! This had not occurred to me before seeing it in the game, as I don't shoot for a living or anything. __ ffolkes.