So my birthday is coming up and I picked up a new G23RTF2 from my local gun shop. Went to the range today put 170 rds (3 boxes range fodder and 20 carry rounds) through it. No problems, came with 2 mags that have the #2 on them and "B" followers, other than being stiff they worked flawless. No FTF or FTE. Jury is still out on the "fish-gill" serrations, but they are growing on me. I like the RTF2 and I had no problems with my hand hurting, and I in no way have rough hands to begin with. Really have to change the strock sight, just really do not like the factory rear "U".