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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by willie_pete, Sep 18, 2019.
Oh hell no....I'm older than the Air Force.
You are correct. But the blame also lays on Gen Lee Butler, then CINCSAC who pushed it along with McPeak and ultimately on POTUS, then G.H.W. Bush.
Amen to the McPeak comments. Briefed him ONCE during Desert Storm.....he told me flat out that I didn't know what I was talking about. Subject was classified, but in the end, I was proven right and he was proven wrong. No apology from the O-10 to the O-5. Really liked Dugan, worked for him at USAFE. Damn Dick Cheney and politics got Dugan canned and gave us McPeak.
Actually, we have used strategic ASSETS at the tactical level, mostly close air support in Afghanistan and Iraq using precision guided munitions from high altitude. Buffs and Bones have been mostly used as long loiter, heavy load assets to support the fights at the tactical and operational levels, not strategic ones....something TAC, I mean Air Combat Command does with fighters.
Flying nuclear armed cruise missiles to Barksdale thinking they were inert training devices would of never happened under the strictness of Strategic Air Command.
1995-2015. 20 years of punching out pilots(egress technition). Some days I miss it but when I'm getting 20 hrs of OT a week I don't!
BOOSTED12A: thanks for all that overtime. I never needed my ejection seat to work, but I always believed it would thanks to you guys! Hats off to you!
SAC would have brought back the firing squad, they were a zero mistake command. I started out in SAC in 1987 as a weapons loader. Retired in 2011, I also spent time in ACC, PACAF and unfortunately AETC.
I’d like to like the Wobbly Goblin, but they sure suffered an embarrassing performance in the invasion of Panama.
Technically speaking, they were obsolete by the time the last F-117 rolled off the assembly line. That’s why there was never a 58th airplane.
Hand Salute from an ex-carrier Gunner’s Mate.
My Dad served in the Army Air Force 1942 until 1953. Ordinance officer.
Our nephew served in the USAF 2002 to 2013. He volunteered to work with the Army and was deployed in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Saw photos of him in the sand box wearing Army fatigues. Not sure what he did, won't talk about it. He did request that we not refer to his rank when sending "care" packages to him.
Hats off to all of you USAF veterans.
Absolutely! If we ever get into a shooting war and lose a few, it’s going to sting.
The F-22 has been operational for years and other countries are starting to field their own 5th generation fighters. We need to be close we to deploying our 6th generation fighter.
I was in SAC from 1972-1976, Nuclear Weapons, Minuteman III. Then Missouri Air Guard 1985 to 1992, munitions, F4E and F15A. Then Tennessee Air Guard 1992-2011, unit training manager, C130, C141, and C5A. Deployed 2002, 2004 and 2006.
So that makes McPeak a scum-sucking pig, pretty much like Colin Powell. Sayonara.
To err is human; to forgive is not current SAC policy.
I knew a two tour FAC in SEA that came back to do a tour in missiles. He almost got separated from the AF after he told the flight surgeon he was sleepwalking one night.
Unfortunately he told them he was sleepwalking in the missile control center.
Well HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the USAF.
Today(sorry belated congrats) is your birthday, happy birthday to you...
Much thanks for supporting us MARINE GRUNTS on the ground, especially 1968 when I was there. Saw them a few times doing their thing, dropping napalm and bombing. So hey,
To all you Veteran and active flyboys and their supporting crews/staff. That is all.
Ironic that the Damascus incident happened on 9/18 as well.
My Dad was a fly boy for sure, who voluntered for WWII and the Korean conflict before there was a USAF...with the US Army Air Corp., first as a flight instructor, then glider pilot, and lastly as a C47 pilot dropping our soldiers and supplies all over the European theator, and who spend many flight hours and days relieving Patton's 3rd Army with supplies and fuel at the Battle of the Bulge. After Germany surrendered he and half a dozen other crews flew a number of US and European dignitaries to the German deathcamps at Dachau and Auschwitz because noone could believe that such atrocities could have taken place...they were wrong. Dad didn't speak about it much, but did say that everything I'd ever heard about what took place in these camps was true, plus more. The things he must have seen...I miss you Dad...
Well my dad was in the Army Air Corps during WWII, and he fixed airplane engines at a base in Texas. When WWII was over both he and my mother moved back to Illinois where all family and friends were. It was a close decision because my dad would have made more money as an airplane mechanic. I almost was born in Texas. Well I wanna tell ya pilgram....Sayonara.
And I'm very fortunate to have his gov't issued Remington Rand that he carried on every single mission, it's priceless...