Handguns ready for red dots.

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  1. Diesel McBadass

    Diesel McBadass Tactically Epic

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    Ive tried a few guns with them, hated them at first then tried a glock with cowitnessed irons and found that sighting system works, without the sights red dots are awkward. Wondering who has guns on market that are set up for red dots that keep irons? Theres glock, which is a pass. Smith has some longslides but i want service sized guns, walther it replaces the sights, who out there has a product set up?
     
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    I’ve been looking for the same thing. However, it seems that Glock is pretty much the only game in town. I’ve seen HK VP9 with RDS, but I think those are aftermarket mods.

    I haven’t dug too deep into it yet. I like my Glocks, but I want some thing different this time so mainly looking at other brands.
     

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    You can get a Sig RX, but those are pretty much junk from what i understand. SW has the core, Springfield has the OSP, and Walther. The walther removes the rear sight though so I wouldn’t bother with that.
     
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    FN 509 Tactical.
     
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    And FNX .45 Tactical.
     
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  7. Diesel McBadass

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    the p10c looks like a slick setup
     
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    What if the red dot has a built in rear iron sight? Replace the front sight with a taller one. And if it all lined up, would that work for you?

    I've read about such a design but can't recall the brand name.
     
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    I mounted a red dot on my Mark IV (built for it, with a rail on top).

    Hated it.
     
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    I have a Canik TP9SFX that is an amazing shooter. It's my first "race gun" style so I don't have any comparison, but dang does it shoot nice, and of course is reliable.

    I bought the package that came with the vortex viper, several different mounts to accommodate whatever site, etc. Canik delivers a hell of a product relative to what they're selling for.
     
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    I've heard good things about Canik. My LGS has a TPSF with a Vortex Venom that I may have to check out.

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    Several Sigs do. S&W M&P C.O.R.E. is a great choice.
     
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    Walther PPS M2 RMSc. Complete package for $699. I love the feel of it and plan on taking it to the range this weekend to zero in the red dot. The dot is the Shield RMSc. Very small and slim. My old eyes really like this setup and you can cowitness with the existing iron sights.
     
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    My G34 MOS has the red dot mount, but required aftermarket sights to co-witness (which is fine).

    Springfield's XD, S&W Shield, FN, and SIG's 320 all offer slides designed to accept red dots. The SIG 320 has sights that can co-witness, but some of the others are like Glock (require aftermarket sights to work).

    For some guns, the rear dovetail doesn't leave much space for a rear sight, so narrow rear sites are needed (I have Dawson).

    This image is for my Glock 34 MOS with Burris FastFire III (which you noted already can do this), but other platforms have similar capability.

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    Walther Q5. I don't know what the fascination/compulsion is with co-witnessing sights.
     
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    Back up in case the red dot fails
     
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    Delta point pro can be configured like that.....
     
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    I have no idea who today is selling RDS guns. I jumped into the RDS on handguns game about 12 years ago with a ruger 22/45 where the RDS replaces the rear sight. It was a simple swap, no milling or no extra mounting plates.

    I didn’t wait for major manufacturers to catch on and start selling them straight from the factory so I went to aftermarket slides for my G19’s. Suarez International has been training RDS shooting classes for almost a decade. He saw the benefit long before big industry even knew about it.

    My .02 about RDS... iron sights are for backup. Iron sights will help a new RDS shooter get use to finding the dot but it will slow them down a lot at first. After you get use to the dot you never even bother with the iron sights and rarely even notice them.
    RDS are faster because you have a single point and not trying to line up front and rear sights. So a gun with no backup sights is not needed to shoot a RDS. A new shooter will actually learn to shoot faster without iron sights. So if you want a range gun with a RDS and like everything about it don’t let non iron sights prevent you from getting it.

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