I've had this conversation more than several times over the past few months, it's a generational thing. Let's vote like pawpaw did, the heck with policies and liberal stupidity, my parents and grandparents CAN'T be wrong!My in-laws vote Democrat for the sole reason that their parents did and they’re grandparents did. They have no idea what each party stands for in regards to policy, agenda and ideas. I throw little comments here and there. They are incapable of understanding.
In my opinion, when the government created the department of education it was downhill.Did she mention what changed her mind?
---I never had that trouble with my Father in law. Other than helping elect Bill Clinton by voting for Ross Perot, He was a good conservative.
His son, Wayne Jr and his children are another story and would argue liberal politics until blue in the face. Then inspired me to create this sign and place it in the entryway.
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The sign, and my daughter informing them all that I had had enough of this crap, transformed our family events into a much more civil and enjoyable time for all.
In any other environment, I encourage such discussions, even though they never change the minds of hard headed people of either party, but at least in public, I can just get up and walk away
I had a uncle who told me not to ever bother to talk to a lib, ist not worth the time. They won't listen, they let the truth get in the way of the facts.I usually let their comments go by without batting an eye--good people,but very liberal--but this w/e at a get together the subject of getting rid of the electoral college came up and suddenly we were getting more thana bit contentious.
They thought the popular vote was the way to go; I thought it was a great way to hand over elections to the Democratic strongholds on the coasts and we went from there.
We ended it before name calling started, but we were getting close.
After they left, I did a bit more research on the subject since I felt the subject was way more complicated than just count the popular vote--it is.
From what I've read, one of the reasons the electoral college exists is to help ensure the small states have a real say in the presidential election process and the passage of legislation through congress (Especially in the Senate were each state has the same number of votes).
A couple articles on the subject:
After reading the various article out there on the subject I gained a better understanding as to why the system was created, the benefits of it and how can act as the glue to keep this Federation of states together during a difficult period.
Amazing how forward thinking the founders of the nation were more than 200+ years ago.
Civics was replaced by Gender Studies and is no longer being taught.It's dismaying how Civics classes in HS no longer seem to be teaching how government works, and more importantly, why it was designed to work that way.
Fortunately, such information can be found online, if people care to look for it, and not jut taken the spoon-fed opinions and diatribes fed to them by the media, pundits and talking heads who wish to see America "de-Americanized".
Awesome story!I remember when I was a kid in elementary school, one of my teachers told us that the Electoral College meant the voters did not matter. Got my (6th grade) class all riled up.
I went home in a high dudgeon. Declared the evils of the EC to my older (all of 17) brother. He sat me down and explained the EC, the Senate and the HOR and why it was balanced to give smaller states a voice, while also acknowledging the importance of the populations in the larger states. How it was all a compromise in the 18th century and still worked in modern times. Never forgot that talk (or the treachery [ignorance?] of my 6th grade teacher).
The short point to a long story is that a 17 year old kid could understand it and explain it to an 11 year old kid. Adults today have no excuse for their ignorance. Kudos to my brother's civics teacher whoever that was.