H&K45 vs Baer 1911- Initial Impressions

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  1. H&K 4 LIFE

    H&K 4 LIFE Leonum A Ignis

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    A V9 detent plate ($9) would have solved that issue.
     
  2. gforester

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    Frankly, I am not very concerned with my H&K pistol's accuracy at 50 yards. That's why I have my rifles. For anything up to 50 feet my H&K is deadly accurate and easy to shoot.
     

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    alg

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    To really appreciate the quality of HK, you should try the USP Expert or at least the USP Tactical. I had a HK45 and although I could appreciate the ergonomics, I preferred the Tactical and the Expert more... match trigger has a cleaner break, shot more accurately.

    I had a Series 1 Kimber Classic, it had more muzzle flip and occasional FTE. Never had a failure to fire with my HKs. My favorites are the 9mm Expert and 45acp Expert. I do have the HK45c and P30 on my wish list.
     
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    Agreed.

    My last nineteen eleven (4.25 " Baer) had really harsh recoil compared to my 45C or TAC.

    I figured the all stainless steel would have absorbed a lot of the recoil but I was way wrong.
     
  5. Mayhem like Me

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    Have a correct JMB spec firing pin stop fitted to the 1911 you will be AMAZED at the difference in felt recoil....
     
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    I was afforded the opportunity to shoot an HK45 at the range once and I was very, very impressed. I am not surprised you could shoot it as well as your Baer. Good shooters are good shooter regardless of the gun, but a quality gun makes it easier to remain a good shooter. HK is a quality gun.
     
  7. H&K 4 LIFE

    H&K 4 LIFE Leonum A Ignis

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    Don't forget that the HK45C has built in recoil reduction, in the form of the free floating recoil buffer located on the guide rod. :)
     
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    Good point. That never crossed my mind.
     
  9. Ahmid

    Ahmid CLM

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    I shoot a semi-custom top of the line 1911. I would think it would have the proper firing pin stop installed. What you say is interesting and will research your suggestion...
     
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    the recoil reduction comes from having the bottom of the fps with a slight radius so that it is slightly rounded. this lets it ride smoothly over the hammer as the slide travels to the rear. i had this done to my mc operator and i got a chance to shoot a les baer and was amazed at how sharp the recoil was compared to mine. for the money they charge for a semi-custom 1911 i was surprised they did not do this slight adjustment.
     
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    I also noticed that my HK45C has slightly less or, atleast equal recoil to my 5" Dan Wesson Valor 1911. Both top of the line .45's. The H&k will probably be carried most of the time and the 1911 on special occasion or in the winter.
     
  12. BlayGlock

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    I went out and shot my H&K 45 back-to-back with my Wilson CQB. I think that the H&K has slightly more muzzle flip but less felt recoil in the hand. I made this comparison by shooting a mag through the H&K then the CQB a couple of times.

    I also took an electronice timer and there was no real noticable difference in my splits, not that big of deal.
     
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    I just ordered a new HK45!! It should be here monday!
     
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    Soooo you're saying that you don't own a single pair of Oakleys??? C'mon man.
     
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    As a matter of fact, I just got my first pair of oakleys.