Gun Problem? Violent Movie / Videogama Problem?...

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  1. Zombie Surgeon

    Zombie Surgeon MODELATOR

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    ...or prescription antidepressants?
    See what is the common link between all mass murderers since 1992. Then you'll be the judge:

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    Go HERE For Much More and to Make the Links To Each Incident Clickable
     
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    Statistics can be skewed any way you like. Who's to say that all of those incidents would not have occurred even sooner had the perp not been on antidepressant meds.

    Also, how many people on antidepressants did NOT kill anyone? Blaming anything (movies, video games, meds) except the person pulling the trigger is just as bad as blaming the gun. If you want to start barring anyone on meds or seeing a shrink from owning a gun, you're cutting out a large portion of Americans who are just normal stressed out with life, and NOT psychopathic killers. I guarantee you almost every vet has been diagnosed with PTSD. You gonna say we need to take the guns out the hands of the guys who risked their lives for the rest of us?
     

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    Read this: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=215962
    It's undeniable proof that anti-depressants are the root cause of the mass shooting phenomenon.
    For 200+ years people in this country owned guns (even machine guns until 1934) and nobody went postal. Then all of a sudden in the late 80's early 90's something changed. What a coincidence, that's exactly when parents started treating every unruly kid with ADD / ADHD medication instead of the good fashioned father's leather belt method.
     
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    Plenty of people went postal before the 80s the deadliest school massacre was in 1927. I think mental illness is usually the common thread between all these events and these problems are treated with pharmaceutics starting in the 80s. If anything I think it proves these medications don't guarantee to reduce someone's illness.

    Also it tends to come to light these people are off their meds starting near the time of their attacks.
     
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    OP: So then you're saying that correlation actually does equal causation?
     
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    Holy crap!

    Click on the link to the full page.

    I don't know if it is the only cause but it could be part of it.
     
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    Those guys were on medications because they were mentally unstable. It's not a prescription drug issue, it's a mental health issue.

    Look back at the 1950's, we used to keep the insane locked up in sanitariums and you could buy M1 carbines via mail order with 15rd and 30rd magazines. There were no problems with these mass shootings then.
     
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    What I am saying is this kind mass murdering rampage rarely happened before kids started being diagnosed en masse with ADD / ADHD and stuffed with prescription drugs instead of being disciplined by their parents.
    If you read the second article I linked you will see that every year in America out of the tens of millions of people who are prescribed these drugs, over 180,000 young people between 17 and 24 (the age of the mass shooters) will have adverse reactions ranging from suicidal thoughts to uncontrolled rage and violence.

    Kids and youngsters had issues in the past, ranging from just being completely nuts to just being unruly. Yet instances of mass shooting rampages were extremely rare because only the nuts (representing a very small number) were treated with drugs. Nowadays there is an incident almost every month. And all of the shooters have one thing in common: they were put on these drugs since they were very young.
    Coincidence? I don't believe so. If we unnecessarily give drugs that have these kind of adverse effects to millions of kids that don't need them instead of only the few who really need them, is there any wonder that thousands of them will go crazy because of the side effects?
     
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    We don't have tens of thousands of mass shootings. They're an aberration, not the not the norm, though you might think they were because these horrific crimes by lunatics have dominated the news.

    Again, it's a mental health issue and we need to put the lunatics away into sanitariums.
     
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    Explain the dramatic increase in mass shootings over the last three decades. From an isolate phenomenon that happened once or twice in a generation to almost monthly occurrences.

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    Adequate mental health treatment is a big issue. In my opinion it's the most imporant issue related to school/workplace violence. People who need help are being placed in the community without adequate treatment or supervision.
     
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    America really doesn't have a mental health care system anymore.....the solution is to throw the violent ones in jail and let the confused wander the streets.

    Shameful.

    This goes along with America's failure to provide good health care to all.

    We need to fix this. It's that simple.
     
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    That chart certainly doesn't constitute a scientific or statistical analysis. It's okay to suspect something but don't assume that's actual proof of anything.