Gun Laws/Ages

Discussion in 'Indiana Glockers' started by Jimfinn, Sep 27, 2007.

  1. Jimfinn

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    Hey Ya'll, new to the site and I hope I'm not starting a "once-a-week" type thread.

    I will soon be buying a new glock 23 (buying through a relative soon), and I need to know some specific issues about IN gun laws.

    I'm not real familiar with legal speak, so please don't link me to some bill that I won't understand. I also tend to get laws confused between IN where I'm from, and Louisiana where I go to school. Anyway, what are specific ages regarding owning and buying a handgun, and getting a license to carry? (I'm 20) I'm familiar with long gun laws, but not handguns. Also, anybody from Carmel, please advise me on the meeting I will be having with the police chief for my LTCH. Thanks!
     
  2. MakeMineaP99

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    Here's the break down:

    Federal law:

    Generally you must be 18 to possess a handgun.
    Must be 21 to purchase from a FFL, private sales are 18. You may have a parent pruchase from a FFL as a gift for yourself, this IS NOT considered a straw purchase.

    Indiana:

    IN law mirrors Federal law, there are no further restrictions. IN is also one of a handful of states that issue a carry license at 18.

    You'll need to go to the Carmel PD for the paperwork, return at a specific date/time, with cash and MO totaling $125 (they will specify amounts) and be fingerprinted. In about a month to two, you'll receive a pink card in the mail. Carefully cut it out, sign and laminate. The duration of the LTC is lifetime (unless you elect for the four year option).

    I've never heard of a police chief interviewing a LTC applicant. KSFreeman just posted a question about this being done in Hamilton County. If this is in fact occuring, please post it here. I'm sure KSFreeman will be interested to know, as the IC doesn't permit for interviewing an applicant.

    With all this said, the purchase you describe (from a relative) sounds completely legal.
     

  3. Jimfinn

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    Sounds good, thanks for the info. As far as the meeting with police chief...I went to police headquarters about a month ago, and the secretary gave me some sheets to fill out and told me to bring them back when I wanted to set up a chat with the chief. According to her and other sources, he is a good guy.
     
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    Please post your experiences. Regardless of the meeting content, how great the chief is, etc. It will be education for all of us.
     
  5. Jimfinn

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    Alright, now I could use some advice on concealed carry in IN. When where is it appropriate, and what are the restrictions?
     
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    Indiana does not have "conceal carry", you can carry any way you please. Open carry is not regularly praticed though. No restrictions on legally owned firearms, ammo, or magazine capacity.

    Where can you carry:

    Schools - NO
    Airport beyond security check-point - NO
    City owned property (city parks etc) - ? (up to each city)
    Casinos - NO
    Indiana State Fair - NO
    Bars - Yes
    Church - Yes
    Private property - Yes (but owner has right to ask you to leave)

    That is pretty much it.
     
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    I will add to the previous post one BIG caveat:

    IF you're attending a "house of worship" of any kind, and that establishment also has a STATE LICENSED Day Care, Preschool, or School, carrying (or even having something secured in a vehicle) should be considered verboten.

    Some states provide that church carry is legal when the daycare/school is not in regular session...ie on weekends.

    In general, though, Indiana is a pretty friendly carry state.

    -J-
     
  8. MakeMineaP99

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    Remember in IN, unlike some other states (MI), if you have a firearm locked in your vehicle on school property, it is a class D felony.
     
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    unless you is a driving through.:)
     
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    What about firearms in your vehicle, any restrictions having to do with that? While I'm waiting to get my LTCH, what are the rules regarding driving to gun ranges etc?

    One thing I like about Louisiana law is that your vehicle is considered part of your home, so you are allowed to carry your gun in your car without a LTC/CCW.
     
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    There are no permitting requirements at all for long guns. You can carry them down the street if you wanted... So going to and from the range with them is A-OK.

    As far as I know, there is no "loophole" for taking a handgun to the range without a carry permit. Otherwise, they wouldn't also offer just a "target/hunting" handgun permit.

    But it's been my experience that it'd take a real jerk of an officer to make an issue of a cased and unloaded firearm should circumstances arise.

    Unfortunately for now, in Indiana, there is no "car is the same as a house" exception for handguns, either.

    There IS an exception for one's "fixed place of business", though. IE a shop owner could carry a weapon on him while he was at the shop without having to be permitted.

    I KNOW there are others here who can elaborate much more eloquently than I just have, too!

    -J-
     
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    is that you buddy?????
     
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    Thanks, Kirk. I forgot to post the "passing through."
     
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    What if my car is where I do my "business", I have an office at work, but spend about 90% of my time out of the office visiting clients and conducting company business.
     
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    A B&M structure is fixed, a vehicle is not.
     
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    What if I bury my car like the Russians do with tanks?:tongueout: :rofl:
     
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    You might get some rust on that fancy SUV you drive. :rofl:
     
  18. MakeMineaP99

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    I forgot a couple very important points (related to carrying but not carry laws specifically):

    1. Make sure you review IN deadly force application and usage, i.e. when may I use deadly force?, may I use deadly force to protect property?, what is a forcible felony?, may deadly force be used to prevent/stop the commission forcible felony?, etc.

    I suggest reading through IC 35-41-3 and IC 35-41-1 completely; see specifically:

    IC 35-41-3-2--Justified use of deadly force (Castle Doctrine)
    IC 35-41-3-3--Justified use of deadly force (Arrest or Escape)
    IC 35-41-1-4--Bodily Injury defined
    IC 35-41-1-7--Deadly force defined
    IC 35-41-1-8--Deadly weapon defined
    IC 35-41-1-11--Forcible felony defined
    IC 35-41-1-23--Property defined

    2. I also recommend you speak with a GOOD attorney and get his/her business card. Carry it behind your LTC. Remember, if you use deadly force, respectfully decline to speak with the police until you have spoken with/have your attorney present. Furthermore, when you phone your attorney, privilege does not attach if others (police) can hear the conversation. Use language like, "There's been an incident, I'm at ___________ (home, business, county jail, etc.), please come." DO NOT use language such as, "I've just (shot, stabbed, bludgeoned, killed) someone."

    I'm not sure if Kirk (KSFreeman) represents LTC holder's, you might check with him.


    Please correct me if I've made any mistakes, I'm not an attorney.
     
  19. Jimfinn

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    Very important question here. I did not specify in my first post, I was planning on buying my new 23 from a relative in Louisiana, not Indiana. Is this still legal...an interstate private party transaction?

    ETA: I did some research by calling my local ATF agent, and found out that you can't do interstate transactions, ie I'd have to do one with an Indiana resident, or switch my residency to Louisiana.
     
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    Am I reading this right? You can't transfer firearms to a family member in another State? I understand not being able to ship to them, etc. But not being able to do a FTF transfer seems incorrect.

    Please tell me I'm mistaken.

    Update: I'm not mistaken. Just googled the appropriate laws. When transferring interstate, it's supposed to go through an FFL.