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Perhaps this will head off some of the repetition in people asking "can I use this Glock (with these parts) at a match?"

The official GSSF rules can be found at the link below:
http://www.gssfonline.com/glockrpt/Current_GSSF_Rules.pdf

Or an updated version in the 2014 Vol II Glock Report:
http://www.gssfonline.com/glockrpt/2014_The_Glock_Report_VOLII.pdf

In summary, GSSF requires that your gun be "stock" in that it cannot have any parts installed that were not made by Glock or that have been modified. The exceptions to this are:


  • any notch and post sights (including express sights, night sights, fiber optic, etc, as long as they're notch and post)


  • grip wraps/tape/panels or other grip enhancing materials that do not materially alter the firearm


  • slide and/or barrel stripping or refinishing


  • Pearce grip extenders on subcompacts


  • aftermarket non-metallic magazine basepads

Glock makes a flashlight that attaches to many of their pistols, but you can't use it or any other "barrel weight".

The above requirements for "stock" do not apply to the Unlimited division, where pretty much anything goes as long as the frame was made by Glock, safeties have not been disabled, you're firing a caliber for which Glock produces a firearm, and a shoulder stock has not been added.

The only "wiggle room" in the definition of stock is that GSSF doesn't, that I can see, define exactly what's meant by "modified". Common wisdom is that polishing (i.e. the trigger bar, connector, and any other metal fire control parts) is ok.

Grinding/cutting/drilling/changing the geometry of any parts is not.

Where is the line between polishing and grinding? A high speed rotary tool with a cotton polishing buff and the polishing compound of your choice will change the shape of a steel part if you work at it long enough.

Perhaps in a future version of the rules, this will be more clearly defined.

It should be noted, overdoing a polishing job or polishing the wrong places can cause a Glock to "double" or go full-auto. I didn't witness it, but heard that happened to at least one competitor at the 2015 Orlando match.
 

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I witnessed it and it was not a pretty site. It was on the 5 to Glock Stage. IF you don't know what you are doing "Leave it alone!!!"

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I guess I have to put my stock trigger back in to shoot at GSSF matches. I replaced the 5.5 lb. trigger with a 3.5 lb. from Brownell's.
 

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I guess I have to put my stock trigger back in to shoot at GSSF matches. I replaced the 5.5 lb. trigger with a 3.5 lb. from Brownell's.

If it's an aftermarket one, yeah. If it's a Glock "-" connector, it's fine under GSSF stock rules.
 

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I'm going to hunt down a "Glock" 3.5lb or a 3lb trigger connector. My 3.5lb one is aftermarket.
 

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The factory "-" connector is correctly rated as a 4.5# connector. Glock never made a 3.5# connector. It reduces pull by 1#. Shooting at speed from the short trigger reset, the difference is barely noticeable. Shooting very slow Bullseye, the difference is meaningful.
 

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Does this apply even to a "non Glock" extended slide lock lever? It seems it would be difficult to tell if it was purchased from Glock and it doesn't give you any type of competitive advantage.
 

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Does this apply even to a "non Glock" extended slide lock lever? It seems it would be difficult to tell if it was purchased from Glock and it doesn't give you any type of competitive advantage.
I suspect you mean the slide stop (part that locks the slide open), and the answer is obviously, if it's non-Glock, it's a rules violation outside Unlimited...but as you say, it provides no competitive advantage, so personally, as an RO, I wouldn't make a fuss about it if I even noticed it, which I probably wouldn't unless it was wildly different from Glock's extended slide stop.
 

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I suspect you mean the slide stop (part that locks the slide open), and the answer is obviously, if it's non-Glock, it's a rules violation outside Unlimited...but as you say, it provides no competitive advantage, so personally, as an RO, I wouldn't make a fuss about it if I even noticed it, which I probably wouldn't unless it was wildly different from Glock's extended slide stop.
Thanks for the reply. I was talking about the slide lock that you pull down on to release the slide for field stripping. I put extended ones in because I had such a hard time getting my fat fingers to pull it down. I was just wondering if I should pop the factory ones back in. Sound like it's not a big deal to leave them in. Thanks again. Looking forward to my first match.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I was talking about the slide lock that you pull down on to release the slide for field stripping. I put extended ones in because I had such a hard time getting my fat fingers to pull it down. I was just wondering if I should pop the factory ones back in. Sound like it's not a big deal to leave them in. Thanks again. Looking forward to my first match.
I really can't see anyone giving you a hard time about those (unless they're made of depleted uranium or are so extended that you hang weights off them). :)

I know exactly what you mean too. For whatever reason, my G30SF and G30S are very difficult for me to field strip, and it usually takes me several tries to get both sides of the slide lock down on them.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I was talking about the slide lock that you pull down on to release the slide for field stripping. I put extended ones in because I had such a hard time getting my fat fingers to pull it down. I was just wondering if I should pop the factory ones back in. Sound like it's not a big deal to leave them in. Thanks again. Looking forward to my first match.
A thread entitled Stock Glock in this GSSF forum from 20 August 2013 discusses this. Mention is made of one after-market extended slide lock that improves the gun's performance. The various replies I received (when I started the thread) all claimed that it would not qualify as stock. :fred:
 

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How about this.... My wife had her G19 "dipped" in a muddy girl camo pattern. The pistol is now pink and purple muddy girl. No parts got changed, but the gun is certainly no longer black. How is that looked at, rules wise?
 

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How about this.... My wife had her G19 "dipped" in a muddy girl camo pattern. The pistol is now pink and purple muddy girl. No parts got changed, but the gun is certainly no longer black. How is that looked at, rules wise?
If it's just the upper, that would fall under stripping/refinishing the barrel/slide. If it's the lower too, that gets a little more questionable. If it's effectively just a paint job on the polymer, I don't see how it would provide a competitive advantage (lead paint adding weight? :) ), and I wouldn't give her a problem...but I'm not every RO.
 

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How about this.... My wife had her G19 "dipped" in a muddy girl camo pattern. The pistol is now pink and purple muddy girl. No parts got changed, but the gun is certainly no longer black. How is that looked at, rules wise?
I see this all the time and it has never been brought up in an RO meeting. No problem if I'm the RO. My wife wants her done in muddy girl too.
 

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Think there is any chance of the Vickers Tactical magazine release being allowed as an exception like the Pearce grip extensions since Lipseys is selling new Glocks with that part installed?
 
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