Grizzly Attack and Weapon Selection

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  1. CanyonMan

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    Wow! Your the man...!
    Let's see now, A charging grizz started out towards you at 80 yards. They cover typically, around 50 yds in 3-4 seconds on charge, and still, you managed to "stay cool and calm," and with 3 different guns, you managed to get off 17 rounds, and all on target, and still take account of the flesh and fur flying, and in all that, still got neck shots, and chest shots! Also you hit the head on charging grizz in the 'side' with the 308 before he "slowed down." :headscratch:

    Remind me not to mess with you amigo !
    I need more practice it seems !

    I would say, "you stay safe..." But man, you got this down hombre! ;)












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  2. thewitt

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    I was fortunate he was not charging at anything resembling full speed for a large bear. The 30-30 and .357 were me. The .308 was my partner from the side at 50 yards on the edge of the clearing - not head shots, heart shots. I'm convinced he ultimately saved my life. He shot 6 times and hit 3.

    My only thought was not to run as I knew I could not outrun the bear...
     

  3. CanyonMan

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  4. fredj338

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    I was trying to figure out how you determine the charge is valid at 80y? I would think F&G would have a field day with that one??? A bear coming toward you is not a charge, but if you got away with it, more power to you.
     
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  5. GlockerBill

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    Excellent point. My son had a grizz charge him from 20 yards and it turned at ten to fifteen feet. It was a bluff charge. Wildlife managers would have confiscated the weapons as described by thewitt above.
     
  6. naughtymoose

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    Its all relative to what you are doing. Having hit a grizzly bear at less than 25 yards with a .375 H&H, I know they can take it. I prefer my rifle first, shotgun if no rifle, and then on to handguns.

    Most armchair commandos cant take magnum pistol of the day and put more than one round on a paper plate at ten yards. Double bonus if you do it in the rain, fogged up glasses and no hearing protection.

    A glock in 10mm or .45 will never get heavy on your hip. easy to deliver repeat hits on target. The gun on your hip always trumps the cannon that got too heavy 3 days in.
     
  7. fredj338

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    Why I tell people having an entire magazine isn't going to help because you will get 1-2 shots off in a legit charge, inside 20yds.
    I once passed by a rutting moose at about 40y, should he have changed his mind & decided I was a threat, I would have been legit to shoot him but that was from 40y & moose don't bluff a lot in rut.
     
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  8. fredj338

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    Actually I will so no they cant. Do the test, easy enough. From low ready, 10" steel plate @ 10y, you get 1.5sec to hit it as many times as you can. Most will miss their first shot under that tiny bit of stress much less get more than one hit in the 1.5sec it takes yogi to cover 30ft. Go ahead & put an 8: @ 5y for the seconds shot, try hitting both in 1.5sec from low ready. Get back to me. That will be maybe 5x easier than shooting at a real bear charging you.
     
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  9. G26-Has-my-6

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    Are you saying you would hold your fire until a charging big brown bear was less than 10 to 15 feet from you in the off chance it's a bluff charge?
     
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    No what he was saying is you are not legit shooting at 20y much less 80y. I would probably give yogi 10y then start shooting because I will get about 1.5 sec to get a good hit.
     
  11. thewitt

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    I was on a sanctioned hunting trip FOR the Idaho Wildlife Service back in the 1970s.

    We were hired to find and kill a rogue bear that was slaughtering the elk herds in the area.
     
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    This has my vote.
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  13. fredj338

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    Well that is totally diff than the charging grizzly issue for the hiker or hunter of deer & elk. You don't get to claim a charge at 80y.
    So you were legally killing grizzly in Idaho in the early 70s? Was that before the ESA?
     
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  14. thewitt

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    The grizzly was not on the list in 1974.
     
  15. GlockerBill

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    nope... not what i am saying at all. he was archery hunting. it came from no where. he tried to pull his pistol, stumbled backwards over a log and by the time he got it out, the bear had turned. I was just saying a bear charging from 80 yards is not necessarily a full charge.
     
  16. GlockerBill

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    poke thewitt any more and he will put you on his ignore list... its what he does
     
  17. Butch_Coolidge

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    Isn’t that the gun the Rock used in the movie Faster?

    View: https://youtu.be/XDBeFAlgjio



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  18. brair

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    You took a 30-30 on purpose to kill a grizzly?Also, where did you hit the bear in the neck?Phil Shoemaker stopped a charging Grizzly with a 9 mm pistol by firing into its neck.
     
  19. Sdasaro

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    I have no desire to prove my metal to a charging brown bear so I attach these little silver bells that Ranger Rick gave me to the cuff of my jeans. They hear me coming and run for cover. LOL U guys know how to discern black bear poop from Grizzly poop?
     
  20. fredj338

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    Hmm, dont think I really care. We are all better on line right?