I was given a presentation by two people representing Team National, a MLM company. I have not joined up with them, and I am looking for alternatives to what they offer. I usually dismiss a sales pitch when there is more emphasis on recruiting new members than promoting the product. The the two reps spent about half the time pitching the benefits of recruiting people, and having those people recruit more, etc. From what I understand, TN offers various discounts at online retailers. Pay $800 for two years, they provide a web page with links to scores of companies. Click through that web page and buy something, the store you bought from will send a kickback to you, usually in the 7% to 10% range. The following is a link to one of their web pages. I don't recommend clicking any of the links on it. I just include it to show the companies and percentages. http://www.bign.com/bignmarketplace...stname=Hill&imdnum=824-63-491A&name2=&suffix= I'd have to buy $10,000 worth of stuff through this system to just get to the break-even point. Are there other companies offering such a kickback system, but which are not MLM? $800 to get into it seems like a lot of money.