I stopped at my favorite pawn shop today, there sat a brand new looking G36. I looked it over it still had the factory grease on it. the mags were spotless,it has not been shot much if any. It had a price on it of $499, after alot of "discussion" I walked out with it for $375 plus tax and BC.I am new to glocks, I have a 23 and 27. The 30 feels kinda fat,but so do I. I will give it a try saturday.I have got to stay out of the pawn shops!!