Read a couple Taurus threads and thought I'd throw this out. 1991 and walked into a local sporting goods store that was going out of business. Spotted this stainless Taurus 85 and thought it would be perfect to teach the wife to shoot. I think it was reduced to $159 plus tax. I was right, the wife loved it and shot it very well. Over the years it's shot a lot of rounds by a lot of people. It's still tight and the timing perfect. It's been a good gun and the only Taurus I've ever bought.