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Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by GreenDrake, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. GreenDrake

    GreenDrake Rip Lips

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    Vic Hays

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    “And every creature which is in Heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever.” [Revelation 5:13.]
     

  3. GreenDrake

    GreenDrake Rip Lips

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    All I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher.
     
  4. Paul7

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    Your God (if you have one) is too small.

    I prefer Christianity to the belief than nothing times nobody equals everything, and that the incredible order we see is the result of chaos.
     
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    GreenDrake Rip Lips

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    Understood, having been raised catholic and through catholic schools and the whole religio dogma charade, I find it easier to comprehend proof, fact and logic than I do a book of fairy tales that teach lies to the flock. Religion is all about control. How is christianity any better than hinduism or islam? Why is YOUR god better? Thou shalt not worship false gods? Define false gods.

    I guess I just see poor logic in faith that because you don't know the answer, "god must have done it".
     
  6. Paul7

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    What do your facts tell you about how the first non-life became life, or what caused the Big Bang?

    I have no problem being controlled by the King of the Universe. Rejection of God is about self-control, or the myth of personal autonomy, IMHO.

    That's a big question, but Jesus Christ fulfilling prophecy, performing miracles and rising from the dead are pretty unique.

    What you should be asking is why do almost all cultures have an idea of a god. Are they all nuts?

    The fact that SOME religions are false does not prove that ALL are.

    It's a better answer than 'nothing did it'.
     
  7. IndianaMatt

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    "I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world." - Richard Dawkins
     
  8. Tilley

    Tilley Man of Steel

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    That's pretty cool. Thanks.


    Isn't it impressive that despite all that encompasses this beautiful universe, there is nothing in it as complex as the human body.
     
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    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    Those are your only problems with science and the natural world? You accept the development of the universe since the planck epoch and the evolution of life?
    Then you admit to having no free will? Glad to get that one out of the way.
    Even if one accepted those things happened, and that's a big if, they're hardly unique to Christ.
     
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    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    You know everything that is in the universe? That's impressive.
     
  11. Tilley

    Tilley Man of Steel

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    Thanks. I went to a private university. :wavey:
     
  12. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    And that is a tragedy.
     
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    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    Clearly if God created all of that, then nothing is impossible for Him, including a personal relationship. It is a thing to inspire awe and reverance.

    Psalm 8:

    "<sup>1</sup> LORD, our Lord,
    how majestic is your name in all the earth!


    You have set your glory
    in the heavens.
    <sup id="en-NIV-14015" class="versenum">2</sup> Through the praise of children and infants
    you have established a stronghold against your enemies,
    to silence the foe and the avenger.
    <sup id="en-NIV-14016" class="versenum">3</sup> When I consider your heavens,
    the work of your fingers,
    the moon and the stars,
    which you have set in place,
    <sup id="en-NIV-14017" class="versenum">4</sup> what is mankind that you are mindful of them,
    human beings that you care for them
    ?<sup class="footnote" value='[c]'>[c]</sup>

    <sup id="en-NIV-14018" class="versenum">5</sup> You have made them<sup class="footnote" value='[d]'>[d]</sup> a little lower than the angels<sup class="footnote" value='[e]'>[e]</sup>
    and crowned them<sup class="footnote" value='[f]'>[f]</sup> with glory and honor.
    <sup id="en-NIV-14019" class="versenum">6</sup> You made them rulers over the works of your hands;
    you put everything under their<sup class="footnote" value='[g]'>[g]</sup> feet:
    <sup id="en-NIV-14020" class="versenum">7</sup> all flocks and herds,
    and the animals of the wild,
    <sup id="en-NIV-14021" class="versenum">8</sup> the birds in the sky,
    and the fish in the sea,
    all that swim the paths of the seas.
    <sup id="en-NIV-14022" class="versenum">9</sup> LORD, our Lord,
    how majestic is your name in all the earth!"
     
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    This tired old lie again?