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God I Hate the Saxophone

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  1. Goldendog Redux

    Goldendog Redux Shut your mouth

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  2. Glock-it-to-me

    Glock-it-to-me Catching liars

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    There are different types of sax's and they all have their own sound. The music played on them can also have an effect on what you like and dislike about the sound..
    http://www.the-saxophone.com/types-of-saxophones.html

    Types of Saxophones - soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, etc.
    Saxophones come in varying shapes and sizes. There are many types. The inventor of the saxophone, Antoine-Joseph (Adolphe) Sax patented 14 of them in 1846. They were the E flat sopranino, F sopranino, B flat soprano, C soprano, E flat alto, F alto, B flat tenor, C tenor, E flat baritone, B flat bass, C bass, E flat contrabass, F contrabass and subcontrabass. While the subcontrabass was patented by Adolphe Sax he never built it. Models of the instrument have been created but they were unplayable. Other types were created since then including the C-melody saxophone, Conn-O-Sax, F Mezzo Soprano, F baritone, and the sopranissimo (nick-named the world's smallest saxophone or soprillo).
    For the purpose of this article, we shall focus on the four types of saxophone widely used today. From the smallest instrument with the highest pitch to the largest instrument with the lowest pitch, they are the soprano, alto, tenor, and baritone saxophone.
    The soprano saxophone is pitched in the key of B flat. It is one octave higher than the tenor. Some versions are curved while others are straight. Most of today's sopranos are made straight or straight with a slight bend in the neck, bell or both. While there are curved ones today, these were more common during the 1930s. They look like small altos and have a richer, more "saxophone-like" sound than straight sopranos. In terms of intonation, straight sopranos are usually better. If you're just starting out on the saxophone, a soprano saxophone would not be the best choice for you. Try an alto instead. Sopranos are generally seen as the hardest saxophones to play and master. The small mouthpiece and difficult tuning can make life hard when you first start playing. Also, there is not much music written for this type of saxophone as compared to the alto for instance. The soprano is very popular in Jazz music. Popular players include Jazz musicians like Sidney Bechet, Wayne Shorter, John Coltrane, and Joe Farrell, as well as smooth Jazz saxophonists like Kenny G and Dave Koz.

    The other type of saxophone we shall look at is the alto saxophone. It is pitched in the key of E flat and plays exactly one octave higher than the baritone. This is a medium sized saxophone and one of the most commonly played. The alto is the perfect choice for a beginner because of its comfortable shape and size. Later on, an alto player can always move on to the other types of saxophones since the fingering for all saxophones is basically the same. Compared to the tenor, it's easier to play. Some altos are very cheap to buy and rent. Most altos are curved in a backwards "J" shape but some of them come in a straight model with a slightly tipped bell. The alto is very common in jazz bands and many symphonic bands as well. Popular manufacturers include Yanagisawa, Selmer, SML, Vito, Cannonball, Jupiter, and Yamaha. The role played by the alto during the Swing Era cannot be ignored; the instrument played a leading role in the evolution of Jazz. One of the most influential bebop pioneers of the 1940s was Charlie Parker, an alto saxophonist.

    Next in line we have the tenor saxophone pitched in the key of B flat. It plays exactly one octave lower than the soprano saxophone. This type of saxophone is larger than the alto, the mouthpiece is larger, and the rods and tone holes are longer. Due to the length of its neck it is very prone to damage. The instrument is popularly believed to be the signature instrument of modern Jazz, but is also used in rock and pop as well. While most beginners start and should start on the alto saxophone, if you prefer the tenor and think you can handle it, by all means go for it. It is really just a bigger version of the alto. Both instruments use the same fingerings. I probably would not advise children to start on the tenor, but for adults it's perfectly fine. Famous tenor saxophone players include Coleman Hawkins, John Coltrane, Lester Young, and Sonny Rollins.
    The final type of saxophone we shall take a look at is the baritone. This is the largest among the common types of saxophones. It is pitched in the key of E flat and plays exactly one octave lower than the alto. Music is written not in the bass clef, but the treble clef. Unlike the other types of saxophone, the baritone saxophone normally comes with a very beneficial low A fingering. Since this is an E flat instrument, low A translates to concert C. Actually, there are two types of baritone, one ranging to a low A and the other to a low B flat. Due to size of this instrument, it is very difficult to play and carry around, especially for children. It is the most abused of the saxophone family and is very prone to problems like tone hole damage, rod damage, body twists, and large dents. In addition, it is very expensive. Notable past and recent performers include Pepper Adams, Hamiet Bluiett, Harry Carney, Gerry Mulligan, John Surman, and Joe Temperley.
     

  3. american lockpicker

    american lockpicker License to Il

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    I used to play the Tenor Sax.
     
  4. Geeorge

    Geeorge Sarcasm Inc.

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  5. tous

    tous GET A ROPE!

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    Paul Desmond's playing has made grown men cry.

    <--- has played baritone and tenor sax in jazz bands
    <--- huge Gerry Mulligan fan
     
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    ATL Peach Girl ♥Meezers♥

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    Atlas transmogrifier

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    I listen to a lot of jazz.
    The saxophone is my least favorite instrument in jazz by far.
    I generally avoid it.
    Still, I have everything that Desmond ever recorded, with and without Brubeck.
    I do enjoy the Desmond/Mulligan classic "Two Of A Mind".

    I also enjoy some of the better Gerry Mulligan/Chet Baker works.
    Love the "Mulligan/Baker at Carnegie Hall Concert" album!

    When I find a good female jazz vocal work, it ruins it for me if she has a damned saxophone honking away in the background.
     
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  8. Linux3

    Linux3

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    The Benny Hill Theme Song!
    Loved the show never knew the name of the song.
    Man that looks like a tough piece to play and I think it's about the only Sax music I like.

    Thanks!
     
  9. AggiePhil

    AggiePhil ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    I played the saxophones in band for several years, up throughout college. Even I really can't stand them. :supergrin: I will however say that I much prefer classical saxophone to jazz saxophone. Here's a good example of what classical alto saxophone sounds like. This is what I enjoyed:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t3l99JPOUE&feature=related
     
  10. Annoyedgrunt

    Annoyedgrunt Dry Heat my ASS

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    I usually don't like the sax in blues or rock music. In jazz, it has its moments. As a section playing in unison a la Benny Goodman or the Brian Setzer Orchestra, it's great.
     
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    The mellow tone of the saxophone is beautiful, and when played by masters like Paul Desmond is is truly special. Jazz wouldn't be the same without a trip to Birdland. Why all the hate;)
     
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    MavsX The Dude Abides

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    I love the Sax! Big time jazz aficionado here. Be-Bop... the best!

    John Coltrane, Sonny Rollins, Charlie Parker, Michael Brecker, Cannonball Adderley, Earl Bostic, Kenny Garrett, Dexter Gordon, Ornette Coleman, Paul Desmond, Coleman Hawkins, Clifford Jordan, Roland Kirk, Hank Mobley, Gerry Mulligan, Stan Getz, Joshua Redman, Pharaoh Sanders, Wayne Shorter, Lester Young... just to name a few.
     
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    Atlas transmogrifier

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    In '76 I heard his father Dewey in performance for two nights.
    The man was a musical genius.
     
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    Gallium CLM

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    Right at about 2 min he made an error (off key).

    Did you hear it?

    and that was the venerable Shure SM58 microphone, it looked like... :)

    'Drew
     
  17. Peace Warrior

    Peace Warrior Am Yisrael Chai CLM

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    I believe ALL churches need a horn section in their bands. Something about horns that make music.

    The sax is a great part of the horn section, but a sax playing by its lone self...

    Hhmmm, it can be either water for a thirsty soul, or gasoline poured on a murderous conflagration.
     
  18. Uncle Ben

    Uncle Ben

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    So Ive been here at GT for a little over a week now and would like to make a statement. So far I have passed over tons of racial, religious, political and other inflamatory statements made by many users here. However, as a former professional saxaphone player, I'm actually offended for the first time. lol

    If you don't like the sax you probably aren't listening to the right person. Cl14mber put out an excellent list with my top 3 favs in a row. Sonny Rollins, Charlie Parker and Michael Brecker.

    I thought I emotionally bulletproof and could never be upset by something I read on the internet. Congratulatons Redux, you just proved me wrong.
     
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    Gallium CLM

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  20. tous

    tous GET A ROPE!

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    I suspect all of the saxophone Philistines are either past trumpet or French horn players or have only heard Yakety Sax.

    <--- still has my Selmer Mark VII tenor :notworthy: