Glocks in 357 SIG.

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  1. Folsom_Prison

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    I've been intrigued with the 357 SIG round for a long time. Unfortunately I've never had the opportunity to shoot the round.

    My glock shooting history consists of a 23 I had, my current 19 and a former co workers 20.

    I know I'm not a fan of 40, I find I snappy. I know 357 is a 40 casing necked down for a 9mm bullet. So recoil wise what category do the Glock 357's fall into. Pop like 9mm, snap like 40 or a push like 45?

    I've ran across some decent deals in the past on a Glock 32 and 33, but due to local ammo costs I strayed away. Winchester white box is like 30 bucks for 50 rounds at walmart.

    I've recently heard about underwood ammo and there prices are pretty reasonable on many calibers. 357 sig is about 17 bucks a box.

    Another thing that intrigues me about the 357 models is that you can convert them.

    Sooo folks, tell me about yours.

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    First Glock I ever bought was a 32. I sold it due to cost of ammo. I guess you could call it snappy compared the to the 9mm. Then again, I like the .40 so for me it's not an issue.

    So in my opinion, if you don't like the .40, you probably won't like the .357 sig. That's a lot of powder behind a light bullet.

    It could just be me, but the .40 seems "snappier" in 165 vs 180 grains. Then again, I shoot the 27 a lot and it could be due to a "small" pistol.

    Not sure if that helps.
     
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    Given that you have experience with a G20, this perspective might help.

    After I shot 100 rounds of Underwood 10 mm and shot the next 100 out of a KKM .357 barrel, the 10 felt like a big bang and push while the .357 was a sharp pop and snap.

    YMMV
     
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  4. TxGlock9

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    Put it this way. 357sig feels somewhat like +p+ 9mm.

    40sw = snappy push
    357 = snap.... I prefer 357sig wayyyy better than 40sw.
     
  5. Folsom_Prison

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    Thanks! When I had my 23 i don't think I ever shot 180's. Just 165's, and I wasn't fond of it. I gave 40 another shot a while back with a buddys 23, I just can't shoot 40 like I can 9, if 357 is similar/like 40, I'll pass.
     
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    I really like the way my G32 recoils. It's just a fast blast/snap and it's back.
     
  7. TSAX

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    Maybe you could rent the G32 at a range or another .357 model and see if you like it.







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    I'd rent one if I didn't have to join a range that I didn't want to join, pay rental fees and have to buy there overpriced ammo if I'm not mistaken.
     
  9. TSAX

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    They make you become a member in order to rent a gun :steamed:, what kinda of crappy place is this, do you know how many guns I sold at the range I helped manage by getting the guy to test fire a rental even though he wasnt a member and then he comes back and buys the gun.

    Either way the 40 is more snappy and the .357 Sig is more of a push back. I like the round but not the cost of ammo. If I still managed a gun range then the ammo would be cheaper :supergrin:






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    My daughter caries a G31 and has no problem shooting it.
     
  11. elijah58

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    I have the 32 and 33 in .357 sig. and love both guns and the 32 is my carry weapon. I also have a 9mm, .40 and 10MM and though I enjoy the others extremely well the sig is still my gun of choice. If you do a little research yo can see that the sig packs a little more punch than the others.

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  12. Ford302Glock21

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    My second pistol was a g32. I liked it fine but I recall it being snappy. I don't see how it could be less snappy than a .40 if the recoil of a 40 was too much for me I would then be pleased to stick with 9mm for its many advantages. I bought into the whole 357 sig thing initially but later I could not reason with having a marginally more powerful 9mm that loses all the 9mm advantages like lower recoil, lower cost, higher capacity, plentiful ammo and so forth.

    I don't feel that sig gives much more than a +p+ 9mm by looking at the math. Everyone is welcome to their own opinions and there is plenty of info out there about all the calibers.

    I know I turned a few heads at the range though. One time I heard someone say "What the $^%& was that?" :) currently I'm rethinking loud high pressure rounds for enclosed areas for fear of hearing damage.

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  13. TexasGlockster

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    The conversion factor is great. Might I recommend however that you get a Glock in .40 if that is something you are interested in. Starting with an amazing gun like the G23 (I'm not biased at all by the way...being that I love mine...:whistling:) you can get a conversion barrel to shoot 9mm (you have to shoot 9mm mags as well) or a factory .357 sig barrel (with the .40 mags...as long as they are newer mags) to shoot that. 3 guns in 1? Can't beat that. You might be able to do this with a 30/31/32 but I know it can be done with all the .40s.
     
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    I went into to LGS yesterday looking for a 31 or 32 in .357 Sig. The shop could get me a Gen 3 in about a week, but couldn't locate a Gen 4 model. I was thinking that the dual-recoil spring in the Gen 4 might make recoil a bit more manageable? I currently have a SigPro in 40/357 and find it to be a softer shooter than my friend's P229 in .40

    I'm considering getting a Gen 4 22 or 23 in .40, and then picking up a .357 Sig barrel for it. Wondering which barrel maker to go with in this application.
     
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    You're going to see that more and more as the number of selfish crackwipers who come into a range for the sole purpose of renting a gun and killing themselves increases.
     
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    Calculated recoil as determined by the power factor (PF) formula:
    Glock 19: 9mm Winchester Ranger T 127 gr. +P+ @ 1,238 fps = PF 157
    Glock 32: 357 Sig Cor-Bon 125 gr. @ 1,380 fps = PF 173
    Glock 23: 40 S&W Winchester Ranger T 165 @ 1,125 fps = PF 186

    Those are the hottest loads I've got (chronographed) for each ^

    The 357 Sig has less recoil but more blast than the 40 S&W.
     
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    I've had a G32 for three years now. I carry it everyday and, luckily, I don't have to pay for the ammo. I love the way mine shoots, recoil is very manageable, and, like all my Glocks, very accurate. I feel very secure with a .357 Sig on my belt.
     
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    If you want the caliber but less recoil. Try sig 226 or 229. Shoots 357sig like a dream. Less recoil than glock.
     
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    Butch,

    I think you'll do best to hold out for the Gen4 if you can locate one. I just picked up a new G32 Gen4 yesterday, and have been waiting for it so that I can also test out the configuration you're looking at--the G22 Gen4 w/G31 barrel. I ordered that one earlier this year (the .357 barrel) from glockparts.com and wil be running some tests with what is effectively a G31 Gen4, a new G32, and a G33 Gen3.

    The radius of the cut for the RSA on the bottom of the .357 barrel lug is the same as the .40 barrel from the G22. I also have an older G23, and the radius is a lot smaller because of the design of the RSA at that time.

    Happy hunting for the Gen4 model if that is what you're looking for. Check some places online, and see if the FFL transfer fee to your LGS would be a good option for you if you can't find one.
     
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    I got the G31 two years after Glock had it in production. I shoot 95% full power loads & it rocks. The gun was made to one thing = .357mag & it does with a 125gr @ 1420fps+ & with that you will have a sharp recoil. You can get 1300fps+ out of the G32. With that this round was made to out perform the current carry rounds my LE today & it's moved to the top fast.

    I have the Gen3 G31-32 you will only find a Gen4 32 now because Glock only makes a Gen4 .357sig not a 31 or 33. My EDC is a G32 but shoot my 31 better.

    It's a great round fast, powerful, accurate! I fee it the best SD round today & that's the way I look at this round. Many others to play with but for me this round is made to put the bad guys in the DIRT:steamed: