I finally picked up a black handled Glock knife with the saw back. Wow, I don't think I could ask for a much better knife, and it was only 30 bucks. I got both the Sog Seal and Seal pup, I got two Strider fixed blades, and I like the Glock knife better. It is light and strong. I think the sheath is a piece of crap though, and I am on the prowl for a new sheath if anyone has suggestions. Right now it sits in a leather sheath that came with my Ka Bar.