Glock changes over the years

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  1. BamaTrooper

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    Black internal replaced
    Captured recoil springs
    Five, or is it six, different frame textures?
    Cutouts in front strap vs non cut
    Metal treatment and slide finish
    SF frames and multiple back straps
    Addition of :impatient::impatient: finger grooves and removal of same:dancing:
    Various colors
    MOS cuts
    Light rails
    The horrible, short-lived, ambi magazine release.

    Of them all, only the finger grooves irritated me. I’m glad they saw the error of their ways and deleted them from 5th gen.

    What feature did you not like or Wish they kept.
     
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    Perfection keeps changing!
     

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    It is a constantly changing target.
     
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    So we're on what, Perfection v5.0 now?
     
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    Most would agree they should have kept the original Tenifer metal treatment.
     
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    I wish they kept the frying pan finish and the finger grooves.
     
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    Of ALL their changes, the addition of the finger grooves was the only thing that affected feel and function for me.

    I think the grip texture change from 1st Gen to 2nd Gen was an improvement but those finger grooves that came in 3rd Gen, blechh.

    A light rail doesn’t make a difference to me but I do remember the picatinny rail that came on a G21 as being a pain in the ass when it came to holster selection.
     
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    I had a 21SF for years as a duty weapon and I liked the ambi mag release. Even shooting right handed I would sometimes use my trigger finger to eject an empty mag as it was easier than using my thumb. The retention of the magazine was solid and would not blow out the bottom or fall out from high power loads. It was a bit stiffer to push but a better design in my opinion. It should be used on the 10mm Glock’s that can’t retain magazines with heavy loads.
     
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    Plastic sights
     
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    Been carrying and competing (USPSA/IPSC/3gun/Steel) with Glocks since ‘94 and wouldn’t trade my 19Xs or G45s for any of the dozens I’ve owned over the past 26yrs.

    Glocks just keep getting better as the years pass.
     
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    The generation 4’s were always a disappointment for me.

    The slick frying pan finish of the early and mid 2000’s is the absolute toughest finish I have seen, dropping it was a mistake.
     
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    OP: You omit many significant revisions, a few more listed here:

    - LCI Extractor
    - Locking Block Pin
    - DUAL Recoil Spring Assembly, universal with Gen4
    - Improved coil Trigger Spring attachment point on pre-Gen5 Trigger Bar
    - Improved coil Trigger Spring attachment point on pre-Gen5 Trigger Mechanism Housing.

    Gen5 REVISIONS
    a. Compressed hookless coil Trigger Spring
    b. Improved Firing Pin
    c. Improved Firing Pin Safety
    d. Strengthed Slide RSA Boss
    e. Coil Slide Lock Spring
    f. Coil Slide Stop Lever Spring
    g. G17 and G34 use same lock-up as G19
    h. G34 has no slide cutouts
    i. Ambidextrous Slide Stop Lever
    j. Elimination of Locking Block Pin
    k. Mag well flair
    l. No finger grooves
    (Items i through l are of negative value, IMHO.

    For many Glockers, it's of no matter what real engineering changes occur...but only what the superficial shapes and contours the frame plastic has. They don't care what's under the plastic.
     
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    Yeah, except for the captured vs non captured recoil spring, most of mine was external and cosmetic. I suppose the reversible mag release and ambi safety could be improvements (for lefties).
    Addressing j-l on your list:
    Locking block pin- didn’t it only start when they started building .40s? If it’s not needed in 9mm, why do it?
    Magazine well flare- my hand doesn’t cover that far down the grip so it doesn’t affect my ability to hold the gun so I guess it’s cosmetic for me. If it works as a mag funnel, bonus.
    No finger grooves- as stated earlier, I hate them. I don’t know what rheumatoid arthritis afflicted gorilla they had squeezing the hot plastic, but his misshapen hands didn’t match up with mine. I get a high grip on the pistol and the ridge of the grooves did two things. Prevented me from having a comfortable grip and made it harder to make grip corrections without loosening my grip (more than non-finger grooves frames).
    Of all the changes, I think the frame reduction and modular back straps might be the most useful. A gun that fits your hand is a good thing.
    Of the internal Gen 5 mods, the one I appreciate most is the new FPS. It makes a difference in take up and trigger “break”. Improved trigger spring mountain point? Never noticed but would be interested in what it’s supposed to do. Firing pin? I know what they did but the others always worked; perhaps I didn’t/don’t shoot enough to notice anything that needed fixing.
    Your list is thorough and contains some I knew about and some I didn’t. Thanks.
     
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    Companies absolutely have to issue *NEW* products or make changes. *NEW* is the siren call making folks buy stuff when the older stuff is perfectly serviceable. Nothing turns consumers off more than not having *NEW* stuff to spend money on.

    I like captured recoil springs & the frying pan finish on my 2003 G22.
     
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    Changes to the cruciform on the gen 5. That's kinda weird. Anyone know what's up there??
     
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    I despise the ambi slide-stop on the Gen5s. I don’t mind the Gen4 but Gen3 is my overall favorite. I started shooting Glocks in the late-90s when the Gen3s came out so I’m used to the finger grooves.
     
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    I hope the slick frying pan finish never, never, never makes a comeback!

    The changeable backstrap is a good idea.
     
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    I have a Glock 21 and Glock 21c (compensated). Glock no longer makes compensated.
     
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    Perfection in the product is the easy part.
    The perfect customer is the most evasive target.:outtahere:
     
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    As evidenced by the clamor for a small, single stack 9mm or .380 and then a market to support making them larger (mag extensions and slide cuts for red dots and rails to hang crap on).
     
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