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Glock Carbine Kit In Stock

Discussion in 'Smart Shopper' started by gaston's pal, Aug 16, 2002.

  1. gaston's pal

    gaston's pal

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    FINALLY
    HERE THEY ARE, Click here
    I know he's looking for dealers, so qty discounts may be available.
    ONY 17's so far:(
    I am waiting for the 22 .40 cal
    GP
     
  2. sven

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    GUESSING that this isn't legal in CA. Right?

    As if anything IS.
     

  3. gaston's pal

    gaston's pal

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  4. Thom

    Thom

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    I was at a gun show 2 weeks ago and the Glockmeister had them for sale.
    They looked great.

    Info freely given

    Thom
    :cool:
     
  5. walzy

    walzy

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    yes ca legal but ILEGAL when assymbled. it would be a rifle with a pistol grip and detachable mag a no-no.
     
  6. gaston's pal

    gaston's pal

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    QUOTED:
    Glock=pistol (LEGAL)
    Glock with stock=short barrelled rifle (ILLEGAL IN MANY AREAS)
    Glock with long barrel=pistol (LEGAL)
    Glock with forward grip=AOW (ILLEGAL IN MANY AREAS)
    Glock with stock and forward grip=short barrelled rifle
    Glock with stock and 16" barrel=rifle
    Glock with stock, 16" barrel and forward grip=rifle

    Have already checked this with ATF Tech Branch.
    END QUOTE.

    SO THEREFORE a rifle is LEGAL in Cali, and then the Glock with barrel and stock is legal.
    SEE:



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  7. hinee hoonee

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    WOWEE!
    Great kit!
    And with the Lasermax (smitty also sold me one cheap) it is ON THE MONEY!

    My humple opinion.
    PS This site rocks!:)
     
  8. striderglock

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    wow, how much does smitty pay you guys?
     
  9. walzy

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    not leagle in california we cant have a detachable mag pistol grip gun in california. so yes you can buy it but no you canot use it.
     
  10. Davis

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    Have already checked this with ATF Tech Branch.
    END QUOTE.
    SO THEREFORE a rifle is LEGAL in Cali, and then the Glock with barrel and stock is legal.


    ATF may say OK, but you also need to actually walk that type of gun assembled into the DEPT OF JUSTICE office of California and get their approval too.
    http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/

    I has to be approved by those people too not just the ATF to be OK here in California.

    Once you have delt with them and read all of the "special" rules,you will know why we are so touchy about new things like this unit.

    You see, In Ca a rifle is an assault weapon if it has a detachable magazine and just one of these features;
    Article 2. Definitions of Terms Used to Identify Assault Weapons

    978.20 Definitions
    The following definitions apply to terms used in the identification of assault weapons pursuant to Penal Code section 12276.1:

    (a) "detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with neither disassembly of the firearm action nor use of a tool being required. A bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool. Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine.

    (b) "flash suppressor" means any device designed, intended, or that functions to perceptibly reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision.

    (c) "forward pistol grip" means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp forward of the trigger.

    (d) "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon" means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed portion of the trigger while firing.

    (e) "thumbhole stock" means a stock with a hole that allows the thumb of the trigger hand to penetrate into or through the stock while firing.

    NOTE: Authority cited: Section 12276.5(i), Penal Code. Reference: Sections 12276.1, 12280, and 12285, Penal Code.
    12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

    (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
    (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
    (B) A thumbhole stock.
    (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
    (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
    (E) A flash suppressor.
    (F) A forward pistol grip.

    (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

    (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

    (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
    (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
    (B) A second handgrip.
    (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
    (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

    (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

    (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
    (A) A folding or telescoping stock.
    (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.

    (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

    (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

    (b) "Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.

    (c) The following definitions shall apply under this section:
    (1) "Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
    (2) "Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
    (3) "Antique firearm" means any firearm manufactured prior to January 1, 1899.

    (d) This section shall become operative January 1, 2000.



    In the states eyes,your unit seems to be a detachable magazine fed,pistol gripped,threaded barreled,thumbhole stocked rifle.

    If you can clarify your earlier statement on how this is not illegal here "in CALI" out, that would great.

    Sorry this thread is so long, but this is all we have to deal with
    Thanks
     
  11. Road Weazel

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    My Mech-Tech CCU for the Glock is illegal in CA. 16" barrel, fixed stock. It's the pistol grip and detatchable mag. Just because the ATF sez it's legal, doesn't mean Kalifornia has to accept it. They gots their own set of rules...
    Colin