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Glock bite with 17/34 but not the smaller frames...

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by bfthorp, Feb 27, 2010.

  1. bfthorp

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    Did a search with no results so I'll ask.

    I constantly am gouged by the slide on the 17/34 full size frames but don't have issues with the 19/23 and baby glocks. My hands are large and my thumbs forward / high grip causes my thumb knuckle to get knifed by the lower left part of the slide.

    Anyone else have the same issues; getting by with the smaller frames?
     
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    Thanks for the link. I didn't see that one on the search but it was entertaining. I only found one poster with the same issues.

    quotes like this one BTW littered the thread and were amusing.

    "Learn how to hold the gun properly... problem solved... "

    Lots of high grip / thumbs forward competitors experience "the knuckle bite" but I seem to get it only on the duty frame sized guns. Just curious
     
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    No problem here with my G34 or G22. Was just shooting metal plates today with the 34 (so much fun). Never has been an issue but maybe I don't have as high a grip as the OP.
     
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    Wow! How did I miss that thread? Great advice like "hold the weapon correctly" or "that's impossible". There was a poster that had a similar experience like I had. I recently got rid of my Glock 35 (kick myself for it on occasion) but it my 19 would cut me across the webbing of my hand. My 17 and my 21 don't do it but those 2 would. The webbing of my hand and the palm is pretty meaty. I actually feel a bit cramped when holding/shooting my 19.
     
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    You may not want to hear it again,......but the problem is your grip!
     
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    I've got an M card in USPSA. It's not the grip. The question is at the top of the post.
     
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    "Slide bite" topics that showed up in a SEARCH posted in my first post.
    Read them! Many posed that the compact frames are more likely to cramp
    their grip and cause the slide bite.

    Congratulations on your M card,........:upeyes:
    READ the threads!
     
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    I scanned the theads without much referring to the specific question. Sorry for wasting the time
     
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    If you look at the two frames, 19/23/32 vs. 17/22/31 you can see that the profile of the grip is slightly different. The compact frame puts the hump more in the meat of the heel of the palm. The larger frame puts the hump slight lower pushing the heel up and thus the whole grip up more.

    Just what I've observed.

    Ignore the post about proper grip, blah, blah... You know how to shoot well and believe it or not, people don't all come with the same hands.

    :dunno:
     
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    This time, I'm not gonna bite...

    :)

    'Drew
     
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    You should take your own advice, and read this thread, again. He is clearly saying that the smaller, compact, frames don't cause the problem. The larger frames do.

    I agree with him.
     
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    Yes I see that looks like I mis-spoke.
    I stated before,....the problem is his GRIP! You can not grip a baseball bat like a softball bat. They are simular but VERY different.
     
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    I don't know how to respond to that one. Over my head for sure...
     
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    I agree with your logic. A long time top shelf Glock shooter, and good friend, had the same conclusion several years back. I had forgotten his comments until I read your post. I've been outta the Glock loop for a while . Funny, the 17/34 will mist my glasses, the 19 is just a knuckle rub, and the babies don't do anything.

    I appreciate your comments
     
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    Well, I shot a borrowed 19 a little this morning and I have a little skin missing but it's not bad. I may end up using a 19 for a carry gun after a little more looking around.
     
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    [Not uncommon with novice shooters. Never heard of someone having more grip problems with larger models though.[/B]
     
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    As G36's Rule said, "people don't all come with the same hands." The size, proportions, meatiness and degree of movement of thumb joints in particular, all create a wide range of variations which can lead to different problems.

    If you are shooting with shooting hand thumb pointing forward above the supporting hand thumb, also pointed forwards, that is, the accepted Modern Isosceles style, this will raise the thumb knuckle and in some cases will produce your problem. If this describes you then changing your grip so that the shooting hand thumb points forward and ends just above the mag release might solve your problem. Or it might not, but if it is a solution you will then take some time to develop a two handed grip that has the thumb in that position.

    The simple alternative is to thicken the beaver tail. 1/8th to 3/16ths should be enough. You can experiment by building up the thickness with masking tape to find out how much you need. You can then do a semi temporary job with black silicone mastic of the kind that sets like rubber or build it up with epoxy for a permanent solution.

    English
     
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