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Glock 36 kb!

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by TNRonin, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. TNRonin

    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    Just got of ICQ with a buddy. His G36 went kb on him. He was shooting reloads, most likely 200gr FMJ. He said he was shooting light loads one handed. Pealed the slide and bbl. I'll get some pics and a right up. He thinks something was wrong with the OAL of the round (too short) I dunno, and this may remain a mystery.

    Just watch your reloads!

    When I know stuff, I'll post it on here.
     
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  3. TNRonin

    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    I have another buddy that is VERY knowledgeable on reloading. I commented on this and he said possibly a light charge, something about the powder igniting too fast. Definately NOT bbl obstruction, and my friend said he was shooting light loads for target practice. I'm waiting on the pics.
     
  4. AJE

    AJE Sometimes grumpy, not old

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    How would a light charge create a kb?
     
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    I think some revolver shooters had problems a while back shooting light loads with a specific powder, but I can't remember which powder it was. Like Ronin said the powder ignites quicker when there is less volume.
     
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    trozau troy ounce gold

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    Because of its slim profile, the G36 has a thinner barrel than the G21 & G30 so it would not surprise me that it could be more susceptible to Kb. I never use reloads which could void the warranty (just in case I get a Kb).
     
  7. TNRonin

    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    I'm still waiting on the pics, should get them on the W/E, or I will take my own pics. He is supposed to bring it to the fun show this w/e.
     
  8. Merkavaboy

    Merkavaboy Code-7A KUZ769

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    AJE,

    The way I understand how a kB can happen with light loads is this:

    Whth a smaller amount of powder and longer cases, as the gun is pointed downrange in a horizontal position, the powder will settle at the bottom of the case (horizontally from the case head to the base of the bullet). This creates a larger surface area in which the flame from the primer will ignite the entire surface length of the powder charge, rather than burning evenly from the base of the powder upwards towards the bullet. The larger the serface area that burns, the more gas is produced in a short amount of time. Thus, you get a larger volume of gas in a shorter amount of time rather than a more controlled volume of gas. The powder winds up "exploding" rather than burning at a constant rate.

    I've often read that reloaders that produce "light" loads should place some type "wad" on top of the powder charge so it keeps the powder closer to the primer (as you would with a standard powder charge) to prevent such an incident.
     
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    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    Here is what he told me on ICQ....
    The local shop is thinking it fired out of battery. He has the case so I'll get a picture of it as well. I find it hard to believe that it fired out of battery. Until I get it in my hands I dunno.
     
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    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    We were talking last night, I wonder if Glock would replace or repair (if possible) the gun for a nominal fee?
     
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    It would be a good idea to have Glock look at the gun, be truthful and I'm sure they will treat him right! Had a freind in a simalar sit. but not as much damage and Glock fixed his gun for a very, very, resonable fee!!
     
  12. TNRonin

    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    Ya, I told him to be up and up about it. They know people are shooting reloads, and giving them some BS would loose any goodwill they might have.
     
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    Might not create a true kb, but same principle as when you get the right mix of gas/air to become explosive vs. just flammable. People forget that the minimal loads in the manual are also there for a reason. :)
     
  14. TNRonin

    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    Hey sorry for the delay, been super busy with work. Here are the pics.....
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    i would shiat my pants if that happend while i was holding the pistol
     
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    TNRonin Happy g21/g19 /g43 owner! Millennium Member

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    He was pretty lucky, the slide went forward and the bbl when backward and stuck in the mud. He's like WTF??????
     
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    Exactly. I've heard of this mostly with light .38 Special loads using small amounts of fast burning powder (Bullseye is the one usually mentioned, IIRC).
     
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    your sure that instead of 5.4 grains of titegroup that somebody didnt put 5.4 grains of TNT in there?

    zowie!!!!

    thinking it might have been 10.8 grains of TG
     
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    Having KB'd 2 G-23s with lead bullet reloads, I can vouch that if you are straight with Glock, they will treat you right. Both times I was using lead bullets, after reading the warnings in the manual(amazing the amount of useful info in one of those books!)and I admitted my errors. Both times they repaired/replaced the gun for what I considered a more than reasonable fee. And I no longer shoot lead bullets in any of my Glocks. Reloads, yes, but no lead. And if I KB another one,I know it will be my fault.