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As I am limited to 2 weapons in Austria due to restrictions - I already have got a full size Glock 20 Gen 4 in 10mm and love it - the best allround weapon (hunting, target shooting, etc.) in my personal opinion - and I am selling my semi automatic 12 gauge due to the circumstance that it is made (which my weapon dealer did not tell me) in Turkey and a true copy of the Hatsan Escort and I don't want to sponsor a dictatorship and Isis - I have got the Glock 32 Gen 4 in 357sig on my radar as kind of compact self defense weapon and for precise target shooting. Does anyone of you already own one and if yes how does it perform ?

I know that the 357sig is made for overcoming barriers and for longer distant stand offs. Now overpenetration is not an issue for me because I live on my own in a solid built brick house with a big area around. No one uninvolved would be hurt and there would be no damage around. So self defense should be no problem. And I heard because of its ballistic the 357sig is perfect for accurate target shooting even from distances far away, Is that true ? Recoil is also no issue, I am used to regulary shoot 10mm and sometimes 357mag from a range mate.

I would be happy to get any informations if the 32 is worth buying or if (as the caliber is not that widespread and ammunition costs are a bit more) I should get a Glock 23 Gen 4 in short and wimpy instead.

Conversion barrels are a problem in Austria, you can have one but you have to get a new weapon licence which costs as much as double the conversion kit and have to register it on the new license.
 

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Over penetration is overblown. With the right hollowpoint ammo it's not an issue. With most major manufacturers the Sig round is just a hot 9mm. I had a 32 but find the subs more to my liking so I have a 33. Ammo prices online are close to premium 9mm ammo.
 

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After I went to my local gun store yesterday I am now torn between buying a Glock 32 Gen 4 in 357sig or a Glock 23 Gen 4 in 40 S&W. Problem is that 357sig ammunition is nearly not available in Austria and if it is available it cost about twice the money as 40 S&W ammunition. So as I already own a Glock 20 Gen 4 in 10mm I think I will stick to the Glock 23 Gen 4 and save some money for purchasing a new weapon licence and a conversion barrel.

Is 40 S&W really that bad ? The net is full of stuff like "short and wimpy", "soft and weak" etc. I cannot imagine that LEOs in the US will trust their lives on a caliber being said that bad. Plus my all time hero Hickok45 loves the Glock 23.
 

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After I went to my local gun store yesterday I am now torn between buying a Glock 32 Gen 4 in 357sig or a Glock 23 Gen 4 in 40 S&W. Problem is that 357sig ammunition is nearly not available in Austria and if it is available it cost about twice the money as 40 S&W ammunition. So as I already own a Glock 20 Gen 4 in 10mm I think I will stick to the Glock 23 Gen 4 and save some money for purchasing a new weapon licence and a conversion barrel.

Is 40 S&W really that bad ? The net is full of stuff like "short and wimpy", "soft and weak" etc. I cannot imagine that LEOs in the US will trust their lives on a caliber being said that bad. Plus my all time hero Hickok45 loves the Glock 23.
Many people believe that they must be against something to be for something. I prefer the .357 Sig and personally believe that it offers many advantages over other service calibers.

Edit: I didn't read the part where your Country had restrictions on extra barrels. Tuff call because I love the little Sig round. The 40 has a lot more choices in ammunition and is more available.
 
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I also agree on the G29
 

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I had two of them. I really liked them, but ammo was hard to find at the time and expensive, so they just sat in a safe. I sold both of them to local LEO. I know one of them still carries it.
 

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fladi, would it make more sense to get a G29 Gen4 to complement your G20? That way you only need to stock one caliber.
To be honest, I already thought about it but what made me rejecting is the fact that the G29 only holds 10 rounds (I could live with that) and is very shortened. It*s rather a subcompact gun with a big and short stock. I prefer the dimensions of a G19 so the models G23 or G32 would fit nicer,
 

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If you can’t feed the G32 beast reasonably then the G23 or G 19 makes better sense.
 

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357 is awesome.
Just pick a 40SW and 9mm conversion barrels and enjoy 3 in 1 gun.
It’s too costly for him to do that
 

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To be honest, I already thought about it but what made me rejecting is the fact that the G29 only holds 10 rounds (I could live with that) and is very shortened. It*s rather a subcompact gun with a big and short stock. I prefer the dimensions of a G19 so the models G23 or G32 would fit nicer,
My impression of the large frame compacts has always been that they are 19 sized. As a matter of fact, the 36 I used to have fit my 23 holsters perfectly.
 

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Quick update: Today I finally bought a Glock 23 Gen 4 in 40 S&W. There is no 357sig ammo available in our whole district, so the Glock 32 Gen 4 lost this race.

40 S&W are plenty available in large numbers, Hollow Point, Full Metal Jacket etc. from Gecko, Magtech, PPU, American Eagle, Sellier & Bellot etc.

For 50 rounds of Gecko for example I pay 30 USD - quite affordable - 50 rounds of 9mm cost about 20 USD. A tenner may seem much but I don't shoot that much - about 2000 to 2500 rounds a year.

This weekend I will deflower my new G23 and let about 250 rounds through it.
 

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To be honest, I already thought about it but what made me rejecting is the fact that the G29 only holds 10 rounds (I could live with that) and is very shortened. It*s rather a subcompact gun with a big and short stock. I prefer the dimensions of a G19 so the models G23 or G32 would fit nicer,
Look at the Pearce +2 Gen 4 extensions for the 29. It transforms the 29 into a real competitor to the 23/32. I only load my 23 mags to 12 or I end up buying new mag springs all the time. Since I started to do that about 6 years ago I've never had to buy another mag spring. The 32 holds 13 easily and the 29 holds and loads 12 easily with those extensions. I always used the Pearce +0 extensions anyway, very little difference for two more rounds. Between the 32 and 29, very tough choice since you have a 20. I'd probably go for the 29 in your situation.
 

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Quick update: Today I finally bought a Glock 23 Gen 4 in 40 S&W. There is no 357sig ammo available in our whole district, so the Glock 32 Gen 4 lost this race.

40 S&W are plenty available in large numbers, Hollow Point, Full Metal Jacket etc. from Gecko, Magtech, PPU, American Eagle, Sellier & Bellot etc.

For 50 rounds of Gecko for example I pay 30 USD - quite affordable - 50 rounds of 9mm cost about 20 USD. A tenner may seem much but I don't shoot that much - about 2000 to 2500 rounds a year.

This weekend I will deflower my new G23 and let about 250 rounds through it.
I see I was a bit late. Good choice, good luck with your 23.
 

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Quick update: Today I finally bought a Glock 23 Gen 4 in 40 S&W. There is no 357sig ammo available in our whole district, so the Glock 32 Gen 4 lost this race.

40 S&W are plenty available in large numbers, Hollow Point, Full Metal Jacket etc. from Gecko, Magtech, PPU, American Eagle, Sellier & Bellot etc.

For 50 rounds of Gecko for example I pay 30 USD - quite affordable - 50 rounds of 9mm cost about 20 USD. A tenner may seem much but I don't shoot that much - about 2000 to 2500 rounds a year.

This weekend I will deflower my new G23 and let about 250 rounds through it.
So the .40 isn't dying in Europe? Didn't they get the memo from the FBI? :)
 
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