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Hello:

I had 468 rounds through my Generation Three Glock 30 before I went to the range today; No malfunctions whatsoever and all different kinds of factory ammo.

Today I had a 100 round box of Winchester White Box 230 grain FMJ and 26 rounds of Remington 230 grn. JHP.

All went well until I got down to the last 20 rounds of the wwb fmj. I loaded both of my mags with 10 rounds apiece and I fired the first mag rapid fire reloaded with second mag and had a failure to extract on the 5th round of the second mag. Shell was left in chamber keeping next shell from loading and angled up.

This is the first malfunction with this gun and it occurred on round 563. I cleared the malfunction fired the remaining 5 shots with no incident.

I then reloaded both mags with 10 rounds apiece of the Remington JHP and repeated the drill -- 10 rounds rapid fire, quick reload and 10 more rounds rapid fire. No incidents on the repeat.

There's a gunsmith at the range where I shoot and he looked at the pistol and removed the extractor from the slide, examined it and said all looked good except a little build up on the extractor which could be expected after 126 rounds.

His opinion was that it was a bad round (case rim bad).

He said just keep on shooting it and he wouldn't be afraid to carry it. I've had no malfunctions with any of my carry ammo through this gun (over 250 rounds).

Question:

1) Could this have been caused by limp wristing? I was beginning to get a little tired but was concentrating on my grip. Don't think it was a limp wrist.

2) My thinking is fire 50 more rounds of my carry ammo through it and if all's well just keep on carrying it.

Does a bad case seem feasible for a failure to extract?

I normally carry a Glock 23, but sometimes switch to this relatively new Glock 30 (little over a year old) in the winter.

I'm new here so I hope this isn't in the wrong forum, and if so I appologize.

Any opinions or recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks,

JM
 

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The G-30 is unusual in that the round being extracted has to bump the top round in the mag before it reaches the ejector. That's why SWC and some other ammo doesn't work well in the G-30. Rough case mouths on the top round in the mag will also prevent the fired round from ejecting cleanly. I suspect the round being ejected caught on the case mouth of the top round in the mag, slipped off the extractor and was pushed back into the chamber by the next round.
It would happen every now and then with my G-30 and mag Tech 230 FMJ ammo due to the rough case mouths and lack of crimp. It happened almost every time with plated SWC handloads, the ejecting round would catch on the SWC's shoulder.

It would not concern me with practice ammo. For self defense ammo, choose one with a visible crimp and a round bullet profile.
 

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Thanks for your information -- very helpful. I'm just going to carry my G23 and retest the G30 with 50 rounds of my carry ammo. If no problems occur I'm not going to worry about it..and carry it this winter.

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I would not worry about one bad round or failure in ~588 rounds, especially if you put a few more carry rounds through it without issue.
 

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Well I went out to the farm after work and fired $10,000.00 worth of ammo and no problems -- no failure to extract.

Fired 50 rounds of my 230 grain JHP carry ammo in rapid fire, really heated her up and had no problems. Didn't even put up a target; just shot into the side of a shale hill cause I wanted to test cycling. So I guess I just had a bad case on the failure to extract yesterday like the gunsmith said.

I'm not going to worry about it and just keep on carrying it and my 23. That's only one failure in 644 rounds and it was with the cheap FMJ ( well really none of the 45 acp is cheap) range ammo.

Although I have 5 Glocks I'm finding myself carrying the G23 with meprolights mostly and an old model Smith Model 60 .38 special as a backup, or maybe a LCP.

These Glocks are great.

Thanks for all the help and input.

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JM
 

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I would not worry about one bad round or failure in ~588 rounds, especially if you put a few more carry rounds through it without issue.
This ^^^^^^^

I mean "really" with all due respect what the hell is it with everyone on GT? "A" failure on one round and everyone questions a firearms "reliability". Do y'all think that every cop every where dumps every gun that has a failure ... jeez:upeyes:
 
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