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Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by redrick, Sep 12, 2015.
Which one would you buy and is the brass to the face issue fixed now ?
I have a gen 4 G19 & I love it. Fits my hands better than previous generations, and has proven to be 100% reliable. I have not noticed BTF any more frequently than I have shooting older generation Glocks or other brand pistols for that matter. Roughly two or three casings off my forehead in 2500 or so rounds fired. I'm good with that.
I have recently purchased two Gen 3 versions and like them very much. The overriding factor is the trigger pull is better out of the box vs Gen 4 ( at least on the samples I tried). One of them is the threaded barrel version and has become my favorite Glock.
I prefer Gen 3s.
Gen 4, larger mag release, better grip, stainless guide rod, 3 mags instead of two. I have owned several Gen 3's and 4's and would choose the 4 over the 3 regardless of all the so called issues/ myths lol.
I like the grip better on the Gen 4. Works better for me, and I don't have to change my grip to reach the mag release.
The BTF issue, well, not sure, I think I still get that from time to time, but I don't notice it as I'm always wearing a hat of some sort since I shave my head.
It's kind of a personal preference thing, but for me it's the Gen 4 without question.
I prefer the Gen4 for the slimmer grip and rougher texture. As far as BTF being fixed, I couldn't really say. My 19 has all the latest factory parts (made in May 2015) and I get occasional BTF. I put up with it anyways, since it only happens about 5 times out of every 100rds. And I've never experienced it with carry ammo.
I own a 19 gen 3 and a 17 gen 4, and I can't tell a difference in shooting them. Grip and cosmetics are another story.
Your fine either way. Just pick the one that feels best to you.
I have a Gen3 and a Gen4. I prefer the Gen4, but the difference to me is somewhat negligible. I like the larger mag release, 3 mags instead of 2, and the options of the backstraps, although so far I'm running it with no backstrap for a (slightly) shorter grip. I do use the large beavertail on my G20 though.
ETA: I've only had the Gen4 to the range once and I did have one brass to the face in about 150 rounds. Really cheap target ammo.
I have had a Gen 3 since 2004. Love it to death. I just bought a Gen 3 Full FDE and a Gen 4 19. Love the Gen4 feel. I did notice 1 or 2 BTF with the 1st 50 or so rounds but never paid attention with my older Gen 3.
After years of shooting a gen 2 G23 and gen 3 G26 I finally broke down a couple years ago and bought a Gen 4 G19. It feels perfect in my hands with the smallest backstrap and I much prefer the gen 4 texture. It just feels great in my hand when shooting. My gen 3 G26 is really starting to feel like crap in my hand every time I take it to the range and I am trying my best to not break down and get a gen 4 and sell this thing. Only thing I'd miss is the Teflon-like finish on the Gen 3's.
All my gen4 guns (if you don't count 42 and 43) have the "Teflon-like" finish. Who says early adopters are foolish?
Have had mine, G19, G3, since 2002. Not one issue, except night sights have dimmed. Purchased as a Police Refurb, 3-10 rd mags included. Did replace a recoil spring assembly, close to 3000-4000 rounds, but wasn't having any problems. Carries well as a Deputy Sheriff Duty Weapon during Court Security 2002-2010.
Retired now, but also added a G21, G3, as latest issue weapon. Both are great firearms.
Gen 3 has a better grip for my hands, so I would vote for Gen 3
I have a G23C and wanted to get a G19 for my wife. I got her a gen 3... too large... got a Gen 4... still too large. She thinks a G43 is heavy! I don't know if she remembers the weight of those S&W .38's she used for 20 years in the USAF. Anyhow, I got a Tactical Solutions .22 Conversion with Threaded Barrel and she liked shooting that, but then she didn't care for the 9mm when I replaced the 9mm slide/barrel. I haven't noticed a problem with brass coming back towards our faces with any of our Glocks. I did have a problem with my Kahr PM45 and Springfield Champion 4" tossing "lovetaps" at my forehead, so I developed a practice of wearing a Kahr or Glock ballcap with the brim properly forward and low enough to deflect any wayward brass. That and proper eye protection make a big difference.
We like the Gen 4 for its slightly smaller grip. I kind of wish that my G23C was Gen 4, but I don't guess that they make that model in Gen 4. I also chose the G21 SF and G30S for the smaller frames.
My personal preference would be the Gen 4 model. It comes with an extra magazine, a larger magazine release, and I think the beaver tail back straps are a must. My only complaint about the Gen 4 models is the grip texturing as I much prefer the Gen 3 grip texturing -- I purchased rubberized Talon grips to solve this issue.
My gen4 grey 19 feels even better in hand than my gen4 black 19.
Maybe just me.
Gimme the gen 4 !
It a personal preference.
But, for me, I "want" grip adjustability. I like the 'medium' grip on regular framed pistols and the 'large' grip for sub framed pistols.
Also, the large mag release is much better than the gen 3 pistols. It IS a improvement. I say this because I do own both gens 3 and 4 pistols. ALL my new pistols are gen 4. I will NOT buy a sub framed pistol in gen 3. That grip adjustability is a 'must' for me and my big hands.
As well, if you ever want to sell you pistols, you WILL sell a gen 4 MUCH EASIER and for a few dollars MORE over the gen 3 because of the gen 4 grip, ambi mag, larger mag release, and the double SS spring rod lasts longer.
AND gen 4 comes with 3 magazines instead of gen 3's two mags....
Brass to the face is an issue that hasn't been totally fixed for 30 years. Occasional BTF has always been a thing with Glocks. I have never owned a Glock 9mm, .40, or .45 that didn't hit me every once in a while.
Many of the early Gen 4 9mm's did it a lot. My wife's Gen 4 19 was awful (one in 5 hit hard, straight back around the mouth) but the new RSA and redesigned ejector fixed the problem.
It's like the rest of them now. A few rounds per hundred hit around the head. That's very tolerable for such an excellent type of pistol.
Gen 3 or 4, the Glock 19 is the best pistol ever made, for my taste.
I have a Gen 4 Glock 20 that has never hit me with brass. It's the only Glock I've ever owned that didn't do it occasionally.
Gen 3 RTF2G.