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Glock 17 for IDPA

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by man0ica, Aug 9, 2004.

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  1. man0ica

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    Fairly new Glock owner here, I just bought a new G17 today to use in IDPA matches. I have a G26 already, (and a whole bunch of 1911's), but wanted to try a G17. I've been shooting IDPA (with a 1911)for quite a while now, and doing quite well with it, but began noticing how well the G17 does in these matches, with their low recoil, quick target aquisition, and very good accuracy. I plan on installing a 3.5lb trigger, but was wondering what else should be done to the G17 to make it competitive. I'd like to use it in my next match which is 2 weeks away. Any pointers or suggestions are appreciated.
     
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    Dale's pretty much got it - and if you throw the stock spring & a Glock connector (even a Glock 3.5#) back in it you can shoot GSSF amateur divisions too. Have fun; 17's a great gun and ditto on Matt at CGR. ^c
     
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    Thats the cool thing about the G17. It is very competitive right out of the box. Might I suggest a 4lb striker spring from Wolf to go with that 3.5lb connector. I did the .25 cent polish job, which helped, and polished slide rail contacts. Now thats about all you can do(?) and still be within IDPA guidelines. I changed my sites to adjustable Hi-Vis and they work great, easier to acquire and see.
    With these mods you'll be able to stay in SSP. Once you put on a mag-well or mod the frame you'll have to shoot is ESP.
    Changing your recoil spring to a captured steel recoil system to reduce recoil is not within the IDPA guidelines, and I personally wooooould never do that ;) . Using a weighted rear channel plug is against the rules too, I think, I would never think about doing that;) . Using brass mag inserts to make the mags drop fast is not a good thing either ;) .
     
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    Actually if you go to a stainless guiderod you're in ESP.

    Them other thangs, as you mention, are kinda no-nos, but if you're not in Master Class, nobody will care, most likely.

    To the other posters, WHY A 13# RECOIL SPRING, vs. stock?
     
  6. Custom Glock Racing

    Custom Glock Racing I did it first. Millennium Member

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    You can do quite a bit more but the most import things are sights, trigger and springs as mentioned.

    Jayman, check the spring wars article at www.custom-glock.com/glocktech.html
     
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    I really appreciate all the great info you guys have provided, and will start accumulating the parts. If the G17 is anything like the G26 that I bought for my wife, I know I'll love it. I am a hardcore 1911 fan, and fell in love with the G26 the 1st time I was able to fire one, and the wife has gotten really good with it.
    I am catching a lot of hell from my 1911 buddies about buying this 17, but I want to try something new. I don't think would have caught as much crap if I would have admitted that I was gay, as I did when I said I was going to get a Glock, and use it in IDPA. Sure like to kick their butts in the next match. Thanks again for the info!
     
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    I too shoot IDPA with a G17, in fact, I did so yesterday. I have a 3.5 connector, competition trigger spring, polished all internals, titanium plunger, stainless steel recoil rod(for added weight). The recoil rod puts me into ESP.
     
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    Interesting. Is there a guiderod I could use with a 13lb spring that would keep me in SSP? Or are the only guiderods I'm going to get going to be metal?
     
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    Custom Glock Racing I did it first. Millennium Member

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    For SSP I use the the factory rod with the endcap removed.
     
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    Forgive me for being dense... how do you remove it? Do you just turn it down? Or do you cut it off completely?
     
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    Easy way is to lock the slide to the rear and pull the end cap off with pliers.
     
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    Custom Glock Racing I did it first. Millennium Member

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    The cap is friction fit. Put the rod in a vice and pull or what mark suggested.
     
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    Whoops! I stand corrected. Out of all the IDPA matches I been to I never seen an RO or SO call to have a gun "broke down" and checked. But with my luck.......it'll happen to me....at a national match no doubt ;P
     
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    You can use your G17 and G26 at upcoming GSSF (Glock) matches in Jacksonville and Orlando. Schedule and rules at www.gssfonline.com
     
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    I've never seen it either, FWIW, but I did see a SO make a note about somebody's pistol at the Carolina Cup, he wrote on the score sheet: "Gun legal?" So at some point that competitor may have gotten subjected to a teardown.
     
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    Heh, well that worked, but getting the stock spring back on there ain't easy. I got tired of it and cut an inch off, THEN put it all back in the gun. (I also ordered two of those 13# springs, so my hack job doesn't have to stay in place indefinitely.) The gun's action still closes, even with an inch off of the 17# stock spring. Guess we'll see how it behaves tomorrow night at IDPA....
     
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    You probably could have saved some money and had a slightly better platform if you started with a G34. Much of what you will be doing initially will be to make the 17 like the 34. Its still a good gun for what you want.:)
     
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    The 34 and 35 were pretty much ground up designed for competition. Dave Sevigny uses a 34 for IDPA. That said, if I ended up with a 34, I'd still be doing:

    1. lighter striker spring
    2. different sights
    3. heavier trigger spring
    4. polished internals
    5. thinned down connector
    6. grip adjustment (a-grip or skateboard tape)

    and of course, adjusting the recoil spring, apparently... ;)
     
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    Custom Glock Racing I did it first. Millennium Member

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    A 34 needs just as much work as a 17 or any other Glock.