German Sig, how to tell ?

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  1. harleyfx69

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    im curious how to tell a german sig from a new one,

    does germany on the frame, and exeter on the slide indicate german manufacturer ?

    also how much is the sig 357 sig 229 barrel worth ?
     
  2. raven11

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    yep

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    there also is a proof mark

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    and sometimes here

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  3. harleyfx69

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    so what would you say a near 98% condition sig 229 in .40 is worth,

    appears to be the original germany, the box is very old backing it up i guess,

    along with a factory sig .357 barrel, 2 magazines, and a open top galco holster
     
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    its better to ask Cobra64 for that, he actually owns 229's i just get lucky with handgun deals and some of them are SIG's
     
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    so is 599 a ballpark or just going rate ?
     
  6. SeeJohnLikeSig&Glock

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    Because of the extra barrel and galco holster, I would say somewhere around 600 would be fair for both parties.

    No barrel and no holster = 500
     
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    its a consignment at a dealer, so i would have to add the ungodly sales tax to it, and they might throw in a box of shells at their cost,

    im guessing i might pass on this one..
     
  9. hogarth

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    FWIW, I don't think ANY 229s were made in Germany. They were the first of the Sigs with the Stainless slide made at their then brand-new Exeter, NH facility.

    Having said that, I agree with others that around $600 for what you are describing sounds about right. Most used .357Sig barrels go for around $100, and the gun itself about $500.
     
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    The Exeter made ones may say "frame made in Germany" but do not say "Germany" on the slide, indicating that the frame was made in Germany, the slide was made in NH and the firearm was assembled in NH.

    The new 228s (I believe they are still making them although they are out of catalog), say "Germany" on the slide and "frame made in Germany" on the frame. However there are no German proof marks so this means the firearm was assembled in NH from all German parts.

    The "real German" ones say Germany or W. Germany all over the place and have proof marks on the frame, slide, and barrel.
     
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    I do believe there are a few rare examples of the 229 that are entirely German made, but I could be wrong. German or not, unless it really means something to someone who likes Sigs, the value isn't going to be that different. Between $500-600 is a fair price.
     
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    i hope the confusion dosen't stem from that photo is of a Zurich police trade in P228 :whistling:
     
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    The very early P229s were half-German. The bottom half.

    The older P220, P226, P228 and P225 were made in Germany by either the "Made in W. Germany" or "Made in Germany" markings. Also, you can tell from the stamped steel slides while the American or half-American ones made by one-piece slides that are stainless steel.
     
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    Looks as though my P229S is more rare than I thought :)

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    "Made in Germany" on the slide with German proof marks on both slide and frame :)
     
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    If it's a consignment gun, make an offer.
     
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    All the sheet steel slides say made in Germany or W. Germany but that doesn't mean the gun was made there only the slide. The only way you can tell for sure a Sig was made in Germany is it will have date codes and proof marks.
     
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    That right there is one fine piece.
     
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    Do you know of any American-made stamped steel SIGs?
     
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    Sure I own one, Sig made the 220 in the states for several years with a mix of components made here and in Germany. I would guess in the beginning they shipped most of the parts here for assembly to avoid having to get them proofed.
     
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    I'd like to see that because the only P220 made in the US were the stainless steel machined slides ones, other than the Sport series, that is.